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John Moxon 
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 Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 1:43 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| dustinp wrote: |
Well, It didn’t quite end as I’d hoped, but all is well. Another one off to the UK, almost went to Scotland  . Had a local guy that really wanted it, but it passed him by.
Thanks for watching, now get that popcorn grease off your keyboards! |
I, like others thought it would go for more. However you have to look at market prices over here in the UK and Europe to realise £33,346 is a very attractive price for a top flight Karmann Ghia. Whilst the price differential between the US and Europe continues so too will the exodus of quality KGs.
If the seller and the buyer are happy, all is good. 
Check Social Media in a couple of months to see who "Monty" is. 
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rcooled
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 10:03 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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Not BaT, but a Hemmings auction for a 1970 coupe. Ends later today.
https://www.hemmings.com/auction/1958-volkswagen-karmann-ghia
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 12:43 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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A 74 convertible is on BAT now, mediocre refresh, but solid and straight looking body.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-volkswagen-karmann-ghia-convertible-10/
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kingkarmann
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| Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 7:07 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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I guess this one got by me or I turned of my notifications.
Judging by the VIN it looks like it could be one of the last 100 or so Ghia's built.
That alone makes it special.
It's certainly straight!
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74 Ghia
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| Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:58 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| Yes, having an identical car I am watching this auction closely. As Lisa has noted on BaT it is #158 on ghiamanjc’s 74 database. Agree with all of the previous comments on condition. Currently at $15k. |
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Marcdeb
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| Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:40 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| kingkarmann wrote: |
I guess this one got by me or I turned of my notifications.
Judging by the VIN it looks like it could be one of the last 100 or so Ghia's built.
That alone makes it special.
It's certainly straight! |
I'm confused as to what in the serial number would indicate this was one of the last ones made? This one would be one of the early 74's right?
The birth certificate says it was built on 15 Oct, 1973.
On 03/16/20, a Yellow 74 Vert sold on BAT. It has a SN of 1442667346 and was built in March of 74.
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68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc
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Marcdeb
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| Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:07 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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Wow!! The 74 Ghia Vert sold for $24,250. That's a lot of money for a car that is a driver quality. I don't care how decent it is, it still needs a large investment to make it look squared away!
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68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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kingkarmann
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| Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:38 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| Marcdeb wrote: |
Wow!! The 74 Ghia Vert sold for $24,250. That's a lot of money for a car that is a driver quality. I don't care how decent it is, it still needs a large investment to make it look squared away! |
I’ll say it again,
The price of entry is getting pricey for our cars.
I’m feeling fortunate that I bought my last one in the 90’s!
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:55 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| kingkarmann wrote: |
| Marcdeb wrote: |
Wow!! The 74 Ghia Vert sold for $24,250. That's a lot of money for a car that is a driver quality. I don't care how decent it is, it still needs a large investment to make it look squared away! |
I’ll say it again,
The price of entry is getting pricey for our cars.
I’m feeling fortunate that I bought my last one in the 90’s! |
I looked on the Samba and there are two comparable condition convertibles and one is about $18k the other $20k I think. And they have been sitting for a while, but that’s the Samba for you. It’s not a good place to sell a Ghia because most VW people don’t care for them. There is more appreciation for Ghias amongst non VW people which is the BAT clientele. Thank goodness for that.
I did notice a lot of WTB ads though on the Samba for verts. Wonder why?
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obus
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Marcdeb
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| Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:42 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| I'm glad i got in when i did! I'm in it for the long haul though so by the time i croke my 3 nieces can battle out who wants what VW. |
I definitely paid more than I should have 2 years ago, but going by the prices on BAT lately, maybe I didn't do so bad after all? 
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68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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Sebastian Gaeta
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| Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:56 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| Marcdeb wrote: |
| obus wrote: |
| I'm glad i got in when i did! I'm in it for the long haul though so by the time i croke my 3 nieces can battle out who wants what VW. |
I definitely paid more than I should have 2 years ago, but going by the prices on BAT lately, maybe I didn't do so bad after all? |
Marc, you didn't pay too much, you just bought it a bit too early!
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kingkarmann
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| Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:52 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| Braukuche wrote: |
| kingkarmann wrote: |
| Marcdeb wrote: |
Wow!! The 74 Ghia Vert sold for $24,250. That's a lot of money for a car that is a driver quality. I don't care how decent it is, it still needs a large investment to make it look squared away! |
I’ll say it again,
The price of entry is getting pricey for our cars.
I’m feeling fortunate that I bought my last one in the 90’s! |
I looked on the Samba and there are two comparable condition convertibles and one is about $18k the other $20k I think. And they have been sitting for a while, but that’s the Samba for you. It’s not a good place to sell a Ghia because most VW people don’t care for them. There is more appreciation for Ghias amongst non VW people which is the BAT clientele. Thank goodness for that.
I did notice a lot of WTB ads though on the Samba for verts. Wonder why? |
I'm the opposite. The only air cooled VW's I've owned are Ghia's. The other models never interested me much.
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Marcdeb
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| Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:16 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| Sebastian Gaeta wrote: |
| Marcdeb wrote: |
| obus wrote: |
| I'm glad i got in when i did! I'm in it for the long haul though so by the time i croke my 3 nieces can battle out who wants what VW. |
I definitely paid more than I should have 2 years ago, but going by the prices on BAT lately, maybe I didn't do so bad after all? |
Marc, you didn't pay too much, you just bought it a bit too early! |
That's a good way to look at it! 
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68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:24 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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New one popped up on BAT. Customized 1970 coupe with some rust surprises…
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-volkswagen-karmann-ghia-12/
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1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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Rome
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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^ ^ Looks good overall though I also spot some "  " with the body. Strong color; reminds me of the Tangerine '72 Ghia color. Nice to see traditional dual-throat carbs instead of just the single-throat ICTs when "Weber" is listed. I wonder what those square pipes are under the frame forks going back to the rear of the engine- maybe a special receiver for a hitch? Engine cold start video- why such a large hole in the rear engine tin at the left fresh air hose? |
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rbsurfguy
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:25 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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I like the part on the repair invoice that says: "Traced problem with turn signal, replaced aggravating 4 way flasher switch"!
Boy, don't some of us know that feeling!!
Jeff
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John Moxon
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kingkarmann
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:05 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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In my BAT comment I said this was and "enthusiast" level restoration. So many things are done wrong.
It's just a dealer selling a car. I doubt they know much and won't be addressing many KG specific questions. A flipper for sure IMO.
Nice it has the rain gutter trims but cal look seals? Engine has no number. I guess that means its an aftermarket case? And why the underbody pics without the transmission installed
I just generally get a bad vibe.
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:30 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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In my BAT comment I said this was and "enthusiast" level restoration. So many things are done wrong.
It's just a dealer selling a car. I doubt they know much and won't be addressing many KG specific questions. A flipper for sure IMO.
Nice it has the rain gutter trims but cal look seals? Engine has no number. I guess that means its an aftermarket case? And why the underbody pics without the transmission installed
I just generally get a bad vibe. |
It’s a typical BAT Ghia for sure. I look forward to the day where correctly and professionally done cars show up.
Anyway, the “cracked tunnel” discussion is interesting. I think it’s the sound insulation, I see you think it’s the tunnel itself. I’m not even sure how you could possibly crack a tunnel unless the car was dropped on top of a pyramid. There would have to be damage underneath but I don’t see any, plus I think what we are looking at is the sound insulation, the metal of the tunnel is not visible.
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1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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