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teahead Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2019 Posts: 326 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 1:40 pm Post subject: VW noob question: another carb/dizzy question |
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The bus seems to run well enough, but just curious if you'd recommend a better carb and distributor.
It's a 1971 (AE) bug dual port engine. Supposedly w/bigger bore out to 1679.
Don't know much else about the engine.
Not sure what carb is on there.
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teahead Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2019 Posts: 326 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 1:40 pm Post subject: Re: VW noob question: another carb/dizzy question |
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guess the picture shrunk quite a bit.
Currently has a "009" dizzy on there.
I guess that's the wrong dist to put on there?
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FarmerBill Samba Member
Joined: July 25, 2017 Posts: 767 Location: New England
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 2:34 pm Post subject: Re: VW noob question: another carb/dizzy question |
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Looks like a 34 pict 3 or a reproduction of one. That’s the stock carb for that engine. Nothing wrong with a 009, is it the ideal distributor? No, but it will get you there and back. If you want to keep that carb and get the correct distributor for your engine it’s a 205 (I can’t remember all the other #s). https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/Bosch_Tune_Up_Parts/Bosch_Tune_Up_Parts.pdf It’s the stock distributor for a 1971 bus. Or you can go with dual carbs and pick up a bit more performance. You’ll probably get a lot more opinions over on the performance forum. Your best bet is to figure out what exactly your engine has in it, stroke, bore, cam, rockers, heads, etc. and work from there. |
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Okie Adam Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2003 Posts: 1347 Location: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOklahoma
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 4:04 am Post subject: Re: VW noob question: another carb/dizzy question |
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It looks like a 30/31 carb to me. _________________ Oil Capital Air Cooled
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69827 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 11:28 am Post subject: Re: VW noob question: another carb/dizzy question |
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What does it says on the left side of the carb?
This should tell you what it is.
Since it's a dual port intake but has a carb adapter plate on it, I'm leaning toward a repro 30/31 carb too.
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FarmerBill Samba Member
Joined: July 25, 2017 Posts: 767 Location: New England
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 12:14 pm Post subject: Re: VW noob question: another carb/dizzy question |
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Oops, missed the adapter. I should have zoomed in, I guess I was expecting a 34 pict to be sitting on a 71 AE motor. Confirmation bias strikes again. |
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Culito 11010101
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 1:54 pm Post subject: Re: VW noob question: another carb/dizzy question |
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I've been using an 010 with the H30/31 with decent results, but it may not be the best. If I remember correctly, the H30/31 doesn't create enough ported vacuum for an SVDA? _________________ Copyright CJ Industries, Inc.
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DubStyle SBS Hit Squad
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 7:44 am Post subject: Re: VW noob question: another carb/dizzy question |
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There are some good write-ups on here and the internet for running a 009 and a pict 30/31 or 34. Until I rebuilt my last engine, I ran with that for a couple years and no real issues. Remember its a bus... a 50 refrigerator on wheels, it won't ever be "FAST," maybe faster, but not FAST. LoL _________________ Anthony
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Split 66' Samba Member
Joined: October 07, 2010 Posts: 1257 Location: Bay Area, California
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 4:40 pm Post subject: Re: VW noob question: another carb/dizzy question |
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That carb does look like my old Brosol H30/31, I ran that on a 1600 dual port, with a 009 for 20 something years.
In 2011, with the exact same 1600dp long block, I added Kadrons and a 019 (BR8), huge difference, adding another 5+hp when you only have 57hp, can seem significant. _________________ "OG = Original German" -- TheSamba.com dictionary |
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tasb The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6371 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 5:22 pm Post subject: Re: VW noob question: another carb/dizzy question |
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If it's a 30/31 carburetor match it to a 113 905 205 T SVA distributor
If it's a 34 PICT 3 carburetor match it to a 211 905 205 Q DVDA or one of a number of different SVDA distributors. _________________ Roads Scholar &
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FarmerBill Samba Member
Joined: July 25, 2017 Posts: 767 Location: New England
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 5:04 am Post subject: Re: VW noob question: another carb/dizzy question |
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Split 66' wrote: |
That carb does look like my old Brosol H30/31, I ran that on a 1600 dual port, with a 009 for 20 something years.
In 2011, with the exact same 1600dp long block, I added Kadrons and a 019 (BR8), huge difference, adding another 5+hp when you only have 57hp, can seem significant. |
I ran a Solex 30 pict 1with a 009 on a 1500 single port with no problems. Then I put duel Solexs and a 4 into 1 exhaust on it and, yeah that extra lawnmowers worth of horsepower/torque is noticeable. Kept the 009 though. |
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Alan Brase Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2004 Posts: 4532 Location: Cedar Falls, Iowa
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 1:55 am Post subject: Re: VW noob question: another carb/dizzy question |
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It's been 20 years since I regularly drove a type 1 engine. But I almost always drove stock carb/ dizzies.
Every time I tried an 009 it was horrible. Way worse throttle response. _________________ Al Brase
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Split 66' Samba Member
Joined: October 07, 2010 Posts: 1257 Location: Bay Area, California
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: VW noob question: another carb/dizzy question |
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Some of the older German 009's are decent, and had a solid and reliable advance mechanism. But the timing and dwell are something I'd prefer stayed static, if possible.
I still haven't reset my timing in nearly 10 years, and 8,000 miles, using a Bosch BR8 with Pertronix Ignitor and coil. The OG Bosch distributors run like a Swiss watch, this is the most solid and dependable mine has ever ran.
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