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carguytroy Samba Member
Joined: September 11, 2018 Posts: 294 Location: Utah
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:21 pm Post subject: Weber 40 IDF’s for The Ghia |
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Apparently there’s a Weber carb shortage due to COVID. However I think a I found a dual 40 IDF kit but it lists it’s only good for bug and bus. Is this because of the air cleaners? If so I’m just going to order them and find a shorter air cleaner(s). Any other reason why they wouldn’t fit? |
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Ian Godfrey Samba Member
Joined: September 25, 2006 Posts: 1137 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:55 am Post subject: Re: Weber 40 IDF’s for The Ghia |
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another variable is the manifolds. some are a bit tall and some are offset (in a good way) I haven't fitted 40idf's specifically, so I'm sorry i can't advise on the best combo so you can keep the deck lid springs and fit the aircleaners in.
but i have stuffed 48 IDA's with air cleaners in and made it work so I'm sure you will have success |
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jaket3 Samba Member
Joined: December 26, 2018 Posts: 125 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:11 am Post subject: Re: Weber 40 IDF’s for The Ghia |
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Hi,
Yes should be fine. I did this recently.
I got CB performance offset manifolds.
This gives plenty of room for the air cleaners. See the below Pic. I think I'd even have room for the much taller ones.
See below pic:
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carguytroy Samba Member
Joined: September 11, 2018 Posts: 294 Location: Utah
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:37 am Post subject: Re: Weber 40 IDF’s for The Ghia |
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That looks good. Do you like your twist linkage better than the crossbar? |
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jaket3 Samba Member
Joined: December 26, 2018 Posts: 125 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 6:53 am Post subject: Re: Weber 40 IDF’s for The Ghia |
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carguytroy wrote: |
That looks good. Do you like your twist linkage better than the crossbar? |
Yes I prefer it. It seems simpler and cleaner to me. I don't see any disadvantages. Maybe others will chime in if there are. |
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jaket3 Samba Member
Joined: December 26, 2018 Posts: 125 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 12:51 pm Post subject: Re: Weber 40 IDF’s for The Ghia |
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Hi,
I tried some bigger air filters today and they do fit. But when you close the lid they are only 2-3mm away from the springs. So it's pretty close but fine. They look much better than the cheapo ones on before.
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macdweal Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2008 Posts: 36 Location: Kuilenburg
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:42 pm Post subject: Re: Weber 40 IDF’s for The Ghia |
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The springs fold up when you close the lid. So if the springs touch the air cleaners when the lid is open, they will clear when closed. No need for struts. |
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jeffrey8164 Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2018 Posts: 3817 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:06 am Post subject: Re: Weber 40 IDF’s for The Ghia |
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On my ‘70 the left spring didn’t touch but the right one did. Enough to deform the filter. I removed that spring for a time but eventually went with shorter stacks and filters. This was with 45 Dells and CB offset manifolds. _________________ Volkswagen!
Turning owners into mechanics since 1938.
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carguytroy Samba Member
Joined: September 11, 2018 Posts: 294 Location: Utah
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: Weber 40 IDF’s for The Ghia |
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jeffrey8164 wrote: |
On my ‘70 the left spring didn’t touch but the right one did. Enough to deform the filter. I removed that spring for a time but eventually went with shorter stacks and filters. This was with 45 Dells and CB offset manifolds. |
My air cleaners are too tall for sure. Where'd you get your shorter air cleaners? |
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c21darrel Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2009 Posts: 8211 Location: San Dimas
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carguytroy Samba Member
Joined: September 11, 2018 Posts: 294 Location: Utah
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 3:52 pm Post subject: Re: Weber 40 IDF’s for The Ghia |
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I havent purchased the velocity stacks yet either. I was wondering about those and the short air cleaners. Probably need the shortest stack they make for these |
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74 Thing Samba Member
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Posted: Thu May 06, 2021 11:04 am Post subject: Re: Weber 40 IDF’s for The Ghia |
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I never understood running the lower profile air cleaners. I thought the reason for adding dual carbs was to get more air in and more power after all.
You can buy these or make a set of these as well to use the taller air cleaner:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1808184 |
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jeffrey8164 Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2018 Posts: 3817 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Thu May 06, 2021 4:10 pm Post subject: Re: Weber 40 IDF’s for The Ghia |
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CB has some short stacks and the 2 1/2” air cleaner elements. They don’t seem to have the tapered stacks for 40’s. When I got my short tapered stacks I got them from Dellorto UK as CB didn’t have them then for my 45s. They do now but not for the 40s.
Shorter stacks will lose a couple of horses which might be measurable but it’s nothing I’ve noticed driving.
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Duck58 Samba Member
Joined: October 10, 2010 Posts: 43 Location: North East England
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 12:47 pm Post subject: Re: Weber 40 IDF’s for The Ghia |
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An alternative, Berg sell the bracket/prop circled although it would be easy enough to make one.
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Starbucket Samba Member
Joined: April 30, 2007 Posts: 4025 Location: WA
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 2:19 pm Post subject: Re: Weber 40 IDF’s for The Ghia |
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carguytroy wrote: |
Apparently there’s a Weber carb shortage due to COVID. However I think a I found a dual 40 IDF kit but it lists it’s only good for bug and bus. Is this because of the air cleaners? If so I’m just going to order them and find a shorter air cleaner(s). Any other reason why they wouldn’t fit?
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The reason they don't list Ghia is because you have to remove the stock air cleaner support so their reasoning is they don't fit because it is in the way. Other than that the motor will like them just as well as a bug or bus. |
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