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Chickensoup
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See. AA cylinders. Weird.
Wow I cannot believe how bad this dizzy cap is. I can no rock it back and forth with like 6mm of play on each side.
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Chickensoup
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| Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 3:53 pm Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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Sooo, that dizzy cap isnt fitting very well, because the rev limiter rotor is too tall. The contact that slides in is too wide. Idk why. Oh well.
This soare engine I had happened to have a rotor and dust cap. So that worked out well.
A generator with good bearings! Cool!
See. It said it would work on an 009.
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67rustavenger 
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| Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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If you are trying to mount the rev limiting rotor like in the image below.
Try again. But rotate it 180°.
The protruding notch deep inside the rotor must index the notch on the distributor shaft.
I had one of those in a 034 distributor. And moved it to an 009. It fit, and worked!
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Chickensoup
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| Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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| 67rustavenger wrote: |
If you are trying to mount the rev limiting rotor like in the image below.
Try again. But rotate it 180°.
The protruding notch deep inside the rotor must index the notch on the distributor shaft.
I had one of those in a 034 distributor. And moved it to an 009. It fit, and worked!
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Cool. Thanks. I should of looked at it better lol. I will give it a try when I get home at 4 in da monin.
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Chickensoup
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| Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 4:55 pm Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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Long block is nearly finished. Just need to tourque the one head and set the rockers.
Tins are fitting up nicely. I will be missing some for now as for I have an early car but it's not like I'm going on long drives.
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Chickensoup
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| Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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Looks like a scored an either cleaned or rebuilt german dp head. Its was sitting it the community parts stash.
So now I dont have to deal with the brocken stud. I have a new set of valves for it so I'll just assemble the engine with one rebuilt and one used head 
Oh btw why are the spark plug holes different sizes? I may have to drill and tap the smaller one. Haven't checked the sizes yet.
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| Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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I'm sure that bigger plug hole was drilled and tapped for a insert.
Are those cracks around the spark plug hole? |
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Chickensoup
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| Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 6:43 pm Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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I'm sure that bigger plug hole was drilled and tapped for a insert.
Are those cracks around the spark plug hole? |
yup your corrrect. i checked the cracks and thankfully they are super tiny and dont make their way into the chamber really. its just along the side of the threads so im guessing some jb weld for insurance around the OD of the insert will do the job.
i think someone started to rebuild the head beause the ends of the exhaust valve guides have been step drilled a bit.
so ill just repair the plug hole and replace the two guides.
so whats the correct way to remove these guides without an angle plate and a press? well if i do make an angle plate, what should the angle be in relation to the valve cover gasket surface on the head?
thanks
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MuzzcoVW
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| Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 7:30 am Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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| vamram wrote: |
I like your style!
I don't think an 009 is correct for anything, or at least not factory original. |
Yeah I would never use a 009 for anything street! Especially stock or near stock. |
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| Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 10:25 am Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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09 is fine if you know how to use them....  as for your hot nuts,I like to freeze then when there red the head is hot and the stud shrinks thus letting in some peneternt from both ends. also those polys are fucking tough. I would have no issue flooring going up hills. you could just swap hemi heads onto it and add a blower. I may still have some polly heads hear with the hemi heads. |
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| Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 12:01 pm Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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u can weld in 'sandals' just leave the socks off  |
Hey you cant that its 2021 you might offend someone  |
Like the woman shows man an ankle in 1900 porn hahaha I think we need a 100k voting tab now |
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| Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 7:01 pm Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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| mark tucker wrote: |
| 09 is fine if you know how to use them.... as for your hot nuts,I like to freeze then when there red the head is hot and the stud shrinks thus letting in some peneternt from both ends. also those polys are fucking tough. I would have no issue flooring going up hills. you could just swap hemi heads onto it and add a blower. I may still have some polly heads hear with the hemi heads. |
let me guess. you had a 318 poly? mine was/is a 241 i think. block needs to be bored out or sleeved. head is trash. oh well. im sure theyre a stout little engine whe they dont have 300,000 plus miles on them after sitting since 1983
finding the correct ignition switch for that truck is nearly impossible. i ended up converting it to negative ground with a ford tractor switch.
btw do you know which hemi heads would fit this one? its a 55 dodge poly. i will post a link to the engine in a minute. its basically a smaller poly than what they put in the 50s mopar cars.
back to vw's, i dont mind using the 009 for now. its a german one! lol. i ordered the plug insert and the guides. i decided to do all 4. i made my own M10x1.25 tap out of an old bolt. works ok but the junk head i was testing on i drilled the hole too large so i may have to buy a 8. whatever size drill bit.
what should i use on the outside of the insert to better the chances of the crack spreading?
thanks
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| Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 7:37 am Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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| mark tucker wrote: |
| 09 is fine if you know how to use them.... as for your hot nuts,I like to freeze then when there red the head is hot and the stud shrinks thus letting in some peneternt from both ends. also those polys are fucking tough. I would have no issue flooring going up hills. you could just swap hemi heads onto it and add a blower. I may still have some polly heads hear with the hemi heads. |
let me guess. you had a 318 poly? mine was/is a 241 i think. block needs to be bored out or sleeved. head is trash. oh well. im sure theyre a stout little engine whe they dont have 300,000 plus miles on them after sitting since 1983
finding the correct ignition switch for that truck is nearly impossible. i ended up converting it to negative ground with a ford tractor switch.
btw do you know which hemi heads would fit this one? its a 55 dodge poly. i will post a link to the engine in a minute. its basically a smaller poly than what they put in the 50s mopar cars.
back to vw's, i dont mind using the 009 for now. its a german one! lol. i ordered the plug insert and the guides. i decided to do all 4. i made my own M10x1.25 tap out of an old bolt. works ok but the junk head i was testing on i drilled the hole too large so i may have to buy a 8. whatever size drill bit.
what should i use on the outside of the insert to better the chances of the crack spreading?
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Sorry to be off topic here but my Plymouth 9 passenger wagon has a 318 poly. After I bough it I added a 4 barrel intake from a 50s dodge truck and then custom built a dual exhaust with an x-pipe. Cam has a mild regrind on it. Had the trans rebuilt with a transgo TF1 shift kit... It's a fun wagon.
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Sounds sick. Small block american v8's always interest me. Well I think some of the older chevys are a bit boring but lately I've been thinking of build a 331 out of a 289. My neighbors got a 67 mustang he may sell. I've been waiting until the right season to walk over there with some cash. Right now the poly is just sitting until my cousin buys it. It's one of those projects that's gonna take a full resto like my bug and I dont think I will have the time after the bug.
The nice thing about the 318s is that you can still buy parts for them fromeurozone!
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| Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 9:11 am Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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| Chickensoup wrote: |
Sounds sick. Small block american v8's always interest me. Well I think some of the older chevys are a bit boring but lately I've been thinking of build a 331 out of a 289. My neighbors got a 67 mustang he may sell. I've been waiting until the right season to walk over there with some cash. Right now the poly is just sitting until my cousin buys it. It's one of those projects that's gonna take a full resto like my bug and I dont think I will have the time after the bug.
The nice thing about the 318s is that you can still buy parts for them fromeurozone! |
good luck finding pistons for that poly that dont cost you are arm and a leg..... i get asked for pistons for the poly about once a month and its always someone looking to build compression. all that is out there is cast replacements from Egge.
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| no I was talking about the older polys...the 331-392 version.the hemi heads go right on. the la poly they you have you can put the 340 la heads on with a cam change and a few other changes..not that hard at all.273-360 la all the same thing. I also have a 276 hemi that Ill probably never reassemble at this point in my life.the chrysler v8 hemis came in all sizes...241 ci&up the austrailian chrysler had the slant 6 hemi I would love to have one of those heads. there is lots of stuff made down under for it. my 340 hemi I ran for many years was a BBC killer and heart breaker, money maker. I sold all that stuff 2.5 years ago...I did keep a hemi and possiably a few other things... I wish this chicken kid lived next door to me he sure could get a lot done on my stuff and lost of left overs for his stuff too |
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Ya there's a few different polys... the 318 Poly is different (technically a Chrystler A engine, predecessor to LA engine), it was mostly a Plymouth thing and came after the first Dodge polys from the 50's. Performance parts for these are very limited which makes things interesting. And most LA engine parts don't work in the A. I not sure exactly how they are all related but I know it does have a polyspherical combustion chamber. I've was under the impression that LA heads wont fit a 318 Poly but I could be wrong. The 318 poly also has solid lifters which kind of makes it an odd duck. Oops, I went too far off topic, lol.
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| Ya there's a few different polys... the 318 Poly is different (technically a Chrystler A engine, predecessor to LA engine), it was mostly a Plymouth thing and came after the first Dodge polys from the 50's. Performance parts for these are very limited which makes things interesting. And most LA engine parts don't work in the A. I not sure exactly how they are all related but I know it does have a polyspherical combustion chamber. I've was under the impression that LA heads wont fit a 318 Poly but I could be wrong. The 318 poly also has solid lifters which kind of makes it an odd duck. Oops, I went too far off topic, lol. |
Mark , Evan, it's guys like you I talk to on the phone everyday that make customer service worth it. To be able to sit down and let Mark vomit some knowledge on us would be a treat. Unfortunately these guys are disappearing and we need to suck up all the knowledge we can from these guys , cause once they're gone... make me wish I could have another afternoon with grandpa and hear him talk about old dipper rods , and setting valve lash on straight 8's .... and such. Anyways back to the topic . You guys just made me smile.
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| no I was talking about the older polys...the 331-392 version.the hemi heads go right on. the la poly they you have you can put the 340 la heads on with a cam change and a few other changes..not that hard at all.273-360 la all the same thing. I also have a 276 hemi that Ill probably never reassemble at this point in my life.the chrysler v8 hemis came in all sizes...241 ci&up the austrailian chrysler had the slant 6 hemi I would love to have one of those heads. there is lots of stuff made down under for it. my 340 hemi I ran for many years was a BBC killer and heart breaker, money maker. I sold all that stuff 2.5 years ago...I did keep a hemi and possiably a few other things... I wish this chicken kid lived next door to me he sure could get a lot done on my stuff and lost of left overs for his stuff too |
Ah yes. I dont know much about the larger polys that came in the mopar cars. But like you said many if the heads are a bolt on. I used to live near you. Shalamar is near jacksonville right? I live in mayakka city near Bradington and Arcadia.
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| Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 1:19 pm Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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Ok so I got the valve guides and spark plug inserts in hand now. Good news is the inserts fit.
So instead of tapping the old guides and using the spacer method, I think I'm going to press them out.
My question is, what angle should the valve cover surface in the head be in relation to the press bed?
Thanks
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