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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2021 8:44 am    Post subject: Re: AAZ- Once More, Into The Breach...... Reply with quote

So, I have the engine stripped to the long block. The consensus in the workshop is 'oil starvation'.

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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2021 8:50 am    Post subject: Re: AAZ- Once More, Into The Breach...... Reply with quote

When I used to build VW inline engines, I would always prime them before the first start up. I had a simple rig for my drill.

I also found that you need to pay attention to new pumps with the clearance between the gears and the sump section. The last new pump had .007" clearance between the gears and the sump cover.

If reusing the sump, you need to verify the relief valve is not stuck. If all things are correct, there is no practical reason for an inline 4 to not have adequate oil pressure and volume. They have the opposite problem.
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2021 10:25 am    Post subject: Re: AAZ- Once More, Into The Breach...... Reply with quote

I'm not reusing *anything*!
However, I've just opened the shipping crate for the new engine, and I'm not happy!
On the plus side, I now have an extra oil pan, oil pump, front and rear main seals.
There's *no* intermediate shaft!
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The bushing is there, properly torqued down, just *no* shaft behind it!
Shocked WTMF?
Also, it's obvious to see, on the oil pan is just a paper gasket and not a windage tray.
Today is a German holiday, so I have to wait till tomorrow to call and complain.
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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2021 1:42 am    Post subject: Re: AAZ- Once More, Into The Breach...... Reply with quote

Joy upon Joy!
It's Update Time!
Engine number three is a No-Go at this Station!
I was *almost* finished assembling it, when I discovered that one of the holes for the motor carrier was *off-center*!

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This means that only two of the three bolts would fit!

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Also, when they recut the threads, they did not cut them all the way down! Minus the motor carrier, the bolt would only thread 2\3s of the way down!
Using a depth gauge, the hole is half a centimeter deeper than the bolt is long.
Add to this, they charged me €200 to drill and tap the head to fit the JX valve cover, only to abandon the job halfway through!
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So, as I pulled parts off the old motor, I noticed a few things not reported before. Oil in the exhaust.
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Oil in the Turbo.
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Broken glow plugs for cylinders 1 and 4.
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And yes, the timing was still DNO.
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Also, there is a noise in the old motor. See if you can hear it!

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So, here is where I stand.
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I have two engines, both unsuitable\ unusable to send back for refund.
Now begins the search for another workshop to get an engine from!
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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2021 6:58 am    Post subject: Re: AAZ- Once More, Into The Breach...... Reply with quote

That’s some bad luck for something that should be plug and play. Sorry.
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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2021 7:49 am    Post subject: Re: AAZ- Once More, Into The Breach...... Reply with quote

I've probably said before but you might want to consider a 1Z, AHU, or AFN TDI engine and get an LT28 mechanical injection pump to run it. You'd want the engine complete with injectors, metal lines, pump bracket and timing covers. Everything else (intake, exhaust, mounts, etc...) would bolt up exactly the same as it does on the AAZ. The result would be increased performance, 15% better fuel economy, and increased reliability.
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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2021 7:55 am    Post subject: Re: AAZ- Once More, Into The Breach...... Reply with quote

I think I might have to take you up on that....
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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2021 10:38 am    Post subject: Re: AAZ- Once More, Into The Breach...... Reply with quote

Do you have part numbers to help the search?
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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2021 10:54 am    Post subject: Re: AAZ- Once More, Into The Breach...... Reply with quote

Wow, that is some crummy stuff! My hats off to you preserving through this and I doubly appreciate this thread with the details.

What your going through does not have me looking forward to the day my AAZ acts up..... Shocked

Looking forward to hearing you have a running engine in Frank
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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2021 11:48 am    Post subject: Re: AAZ- Once More, Into The Breach...... Reply with quote

I'm currently in the process of swapping out an AAZ in a Syncro for an AHU with a manual pump, so I can help with some of the gory deets.
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2021 1:30 am    Post subject: Re: AAZ- Once More, Into The Breach...... Reply with quote

Zeitgeist 13 wrote:
I'm currently in the process of swapping out an AAZ in a Syncro for an AHU with a manual pump, so I can help with some of the gory deets.


That would be awesome, thanks!
I have to start from scratch here, so every little bit helps!

I generally use eBay to resource part numbers and average prices, but I'm having a hard time finding the LT28 manual pump for a four cylinder engine.
(to say nothing for accompanying parts!)
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2021 4:04 am    Post subject: Re: AAZ- Once More, Into The Breach...... Reply with quote

The Land Rover 200/300 TDI pump should work in lieu of a LT28.
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2021 7:03 am    Post subject: Re: AAZ- Once More, Into The Breach...... Reply with quote

Yes, the Land Rover 200/300 TDI pump might be more readily available. There are more gotchas to the install than the LT28 but it would work well. The main ones are:
-pump bracket needs to be machined to the larger pump snout diameter
-either the mounting bolts need to be slotted or the ALH sprocket/hub needs to be used
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:08 am    Post subject: Re: AAZ- Once More, Into The Breach...... Reply with quote

Thanks guzs!
Iäm on Holidaz for a week right now, Iäll have a look when I get back home!
)also on mz wifeäs computer. Sorrz for the spelling mistakes.=
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:08 am    Post subject: Re: AAZ- Once More, Into The Breach...... Reply with quote

Shocked
It has taken *two weeks* for the motors to get picked up!
I've got the van back at the house now, because I don't have another motor ready to go, and the Base Commander now has a tow-happy bug up their ass!
Just this week the contract talks were finalized. Next week, towing begins! The Base Commander has the idea to tow ALL dead and unmoved cars next week.
No fucks given to where they are, in what condition, or anything. If they are in a parking spot, they are getting towed!
So, I just HAD to get the van out of there!
It looks as if I am going to be finishing this in my driveway now....
somehow!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:17 am    Post subject: Re: AAZ- Once More, Into The Breach...... Reply with quote

I've done several engine conversions on a dirt and river rock driveway. A garage with concrete slab and lift is nice but not necessary for an engine swap.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:44 am    Post subject: Re: AAZ- Once More, Into The Breach...... Reply with quote

I know. I did my H6 conversion on Domo/ Dumbo in an unpowered barn with a dirt floor.
But a well lit shop and a lift are much nicer!
This will be finished in my sloped drive-way.
But this time, I had the Tow Driver help me put it on ramps, so I have that going for me now.
My neighbor has a crane I can use, I just need to find an engine stand and I can do it at home.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 8:03 am    Post subject: Re: AAZ- Once More, Into The Breach...... Reply with quote

So, here is an update.
The motor builder is denying my refund, because he says I've mixed and matched the parts (Specifically, I've put a 1,9 in a van that came with a 1,6. Also, he say I don't know what I'm doing, despite in the last conversation, agreeing that I DO know what I'm doing.).
So, now I have to go find a lawyer...
FML!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:12 am    Post subject: Re: AAZ- Once More, Into The Breach...... Reply with quote

Still nothing from Tornau Motors, but my work (Pitstop) has gone and ordered me one from *their* supplier.
I have to wait a week or so, but I have one on the way!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:00 am    Post subject: Re: AAZ- Once More, Into The Breach...... Reply with quote

Shocked
SO much has happened since then!
Pitstop fucked me over (again!), was unemployed (again!), and I'm STILL trying to get this f$^&ing motor installed!!!!
GGGHHHHAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!! Brick wall

So, I have a different front plate on my motor. I can now enjoy the modern tensioner timing wheel! Downside is, the front cover didn't fit (surprise!), so I hit eBay and got another. I am now left with a hole, and questions.....

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Is this where the motor mount would be located in another configuration?
The way the mototr sits, it invites dirt and rocks into the timing belt 'safe-space'.

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