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crankbait09 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:19 pm Post subject: Before using the Torque Meister |
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Before I use the torque meister along with the torque wrench, there is a reading on the meister stating what ft-lb you should set your torque wrench at. How does the torque Meister take the length of the torque wrench in to account? All torque wrenches vary in length and size. |
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 34013 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: Before using the Torque Meister |
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The difference in wrench length doesn't matter. It is taken into account when they calibrate the scale of your particular wrench. |
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crankbait09 Samba Member
Joined: October 10, 2016 Posts: 1304 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: Before using the Torque Meister |
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I see. thank you |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51150 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: Before using the Torque Meister |
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You'll have to calculate the ratio of the TM and divide the required torque by that. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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busman78 Samba Member
Joined: August 17, 2004 Posts: 4524 Location: Oklahoma City, OK
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:23 pm Post subject: Re: Before using the Torque Meister |
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Just use the chart they provide does not matter what size torque wrench you use although a 3/8" is more than enough.
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crankbait09 Samba Member
Joined: October 10, 2016 Posts: 1304 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:24 pm Post subject: Re: Before using the Torque Meister |
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That's what I was thinking as well. Going off memory, on the actual tool, it's stamped in. I think it says for 230ft lbs, set the torque wrench at 25ft lbs. If I remember correctly |
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rcroane Samba Member
Joined: January 03, 2013 Posts: 2000 Location: Springfield, Virginia
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:56 pm Post subject: Re: Before using the Torque Meister |
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The TM uses a 9:1 ratio. _________________ '65 Sunroof Bug |
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Dake Samba Member
Joined: September 02, 2014 Posts: 481 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:49 pm Post subject: Re: Before using the Torque Meister |
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Chart? I got a used one anyone got a copy of the chart? |
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HippyTom Samba Member
Joined: December 18, 2013 Posts: 676 Location: Florida, West Pasco
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:03 pm Post subject: Re: Before using the Torque Meister |
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Dake wrote: |
Chart? I got a used one anyone got a copy of the chart? |
Chart? We don't need no stinking chart. LoL.
I didn't have a torquemeister but knew the castle nut needed 240 foot pounds of torque. So one of my buddies weighs pretty darn close to 240 lbs. I marked the 1 foot point on my breaker bar and told him "stand here." Then to get the holes lined up on the axle I said "OK, now bounce a little...little more...little more....bingo."
It's not scientific, but it worked perfectly. No torquemeister or chart required. I don't know how that would translate into how much a person would have to weigh to stand on a breaker bar on a torquemeister. If you knew the ratio, you could figure it out. |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51150 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:37 pm Post subject: Re: Before using the Torque Meister |
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Dake wrote: |
Chart? I got a used one anyone got a copy of the chart? |
If it's 9:1 divide the required torque by 9 and the result is what you crank on the TM to. 27.7 foot lbs for a 250 lb axle nut for example. You might need an inch pound wrench for lower numbers. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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rcroane Samba Member
Joined: January 03, 2013 Posts: 2000 Location: Springfield, Virginia
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:57 am Post subject: Re: Before using the Torque Meister |
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I’d be happy to make a chart.
$10 each, or $15 laminated! _________________ '65 Sunroof Bug |
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bnam Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2006 Posts: 2936 Location: El Dorado Hills CA/ Bangalore, India
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 12:57 am Post subject: Re: Before using the Torque Meister |
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I’ve seen this 9x ratio stated in many places, but that is misleading.
It is 9x only for 109teeth flywheels.
For std 12v flywheels of 130 teeth, the ratio is 10.8 (130/12). Torque reading should be 23.4 lb-ft
For the axle nut - the sector gear provided has 24 teeth for 90deg of sector (the actual sector is a bit more than 90 and has 29 teeth. The small gear has 14 teeth. So the ratio is 6.86x (24x4/14). 253 lb-ft = 37 lb-ft on the torque wrench.
This is based on the version I bought about 14 years ago. _________________ 1971 1302LS Convertible (RHD) owned since '74
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Abscate Samba Member
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 3:59 am Post subject: Re: Before using the Torque Meister |
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Don’t use these things. Get a good breaker bar in 24 inch so you can feel the threads as you torque, and thus be aware of your work.
This is a non critical torque. It needs to be tight enough to stay on, and not too tight to deform the fastener. This range of torque is huge.
Using body weight and a bar is an excellent approach. It is funny reading people getting their panties in a bunch over trying to get the exact torque when you advance it to the next hole, which is a huge change in torque. _________________ .ssS! |
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31379 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 7:55 am Post subject: Re: Before using the Torque Meister |
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I received the Torque Tool (from Chirco in Tucson) a couple of years ago as a gift from Mrs. Cusser. It has the torque settings on it.
Funny - haven't had need to try this yet !!!
In the past, I just used a 4-foot pipe on a 1/2 inch Craftsman breaker bar with a 36mm socket. Later on I borrowed the 250 ft lb torque wrench from O'Reilly.
_________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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Who.Me? Samba Member
Joined: July 14, 2014 Posts: 2211 Location: UK (South)
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 1:37 pm Post subject: Re: Before using the Torque Meister |
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I got one of these off ebay for £70-odd a few years ago. The guy didn't know what he had.
It's rated for just under 2,000ft/lb output
Retail price new:- around £900.00
It's a bit clumsy but deals with flywheel gland nuts and rear axle nuts with ease. _________________ Andy
Looking for info on my truck's history. Are you from Campbell California or nearby. Do you recognise it? ... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=636786 |
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