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dirtbug Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2007 Posts: 366 Location: Ramona, Ca.
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:20 am Post subject: What month is this engine code? |
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I have a 36hp that sings like a sewing machine. But I would like to narrow down the build month if possible. I know it's a pre-56. Thanks for any help you guys can lend.
_________________ 1959 Type 1 - Owned since 1983
1959 Ragtop - Owned since 1986
1965 Type 1 - Owned since 2002
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sgmalt46 Samba Member
Joined: April 20, 2005 Posts: 1296 Location: south san francisco
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:39 am Post subject: Re: What month is this engine code? |
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early dec.55 . look in the technical section under vin/chassis numbers . it's a beetle engine type 1 _________________ 55 deluxe 23 window bus
64 crew cab
55 rag top beetle
66 beetle
71 square back (sold) ! good luck with it Henry!
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ZENVWDRIVER Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2008 Posts: 3340 Location: N.E. Oklahoma
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:31 am Post subject: Re: What month is this engine code? |
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… years ago (around 1977), I made a photocopy of a number chart, that I refer to, all the time - might be the best reference chart around - is 1949 to 1959 and includes chassis, engine, rear axle, front axle, frame and body numbers - musta' got it from a VW book, somewhere... way before the birth of thesamba …/
… anyway, your engine number 1248714 is a 1956 model 36 horse, made in 12/1955 - z _________________ 5/50, pastel green 11G - SOLD
8/50, gray 11A Beetle
6/52, pastel green 11C - SOLD
11/4/52, black Zwitter - SOLD to my little bro.
1954 Porsche, pre A, with VW 36 horse- SOLD
1/54, black 11C Beetle - TRADED
2/55 Iceland green Beetle, on a 1965 pan
3/55 113 Beetle, stratos silver
1955 Messerschmitt KR175 - SOLD, sadly
1960 single cab
1962 SO33, with SO 42 interior
9/63 Pacific blue, Ghia
'87 Toyota MR2
'02 WestFORDia E-150, GAVE TO OUR SON
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dirtbug Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2007 Posts: 366 Location: Ramona, Ca.
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:58 am Post subject: Re: What month is this engine code? |
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Wow, thanks. Just the info I needed. I got this motor from a good friends 1956 bug back in the 80's. I always thought it was the original engine from the car. I put it in my 1959 ragtop 20 years ago, it sat in my barn and never ran. Pulled it out a few months ago and it purrs like a kitten.
The stamping "1964" means it was probably rebuilt then, but not sure what the "A" represents or the upside down "2674". Could that mean it was rebuilt Feb 1974 as well?
Thanks again! _________________ 1959 Type 1 - Owned since 1983
1959 Ragtop - Owned since 1986
1965 Type 1 - Owned since 2002
"8 dumb guys are smarter than 1 smart guy!"
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dirtbug Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2007 Posts: 366 Location: Ramona, Ca.
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:00 am Post subject: Re: What month is this engine code? |
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ZENVWDRIVER wrote: |
… years ago (around 1977), I made a photocopy of a number chart, that I refer to, all the time - might be the best reference chart around - is 1949 to 1959 and includes chassis, engine, rear axle, front axle, frame and body numbers - musta' got it from a VW book, somewhere... way before the birth of thesamba …/
… anyway, your engine number 1248714 is a 1956 model 36 horse, made in 12/1955 - z |
Would love to have a copy of the number chart. Great info _________________ 1959 Type 1 - Owned since 1983
1959 Ragtop - Owned since 1986
1965 Type 1 - Owned since 2002
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ZENVWDRIVER Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2008 Posts: 3340 Location: N.E. Oklahoma
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:07 am Post subject: Re: What month is this engine code? |
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dirtbug wrote: |
Wow, thanks. Just the info I needed. I got this motor from a good friends 1956 bug back in the 80's. I always thought it was the original engine from the car. I put it in my 1959 ragtop 20 years ago, it sat in my barn and never ran. Pulled it out a few months ago and it purrs like a kitten.
The stamping "1964" means it was probably rebuilt then, but not sure what the "A" represents or the upside down "2674". Could that mean it was rebuilt Feb 1974 as well?
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… I always thought the "A" was a rebuilt marking, but there was a fairly recent thread advising the "A" was not a rebuilt stamp - have fun - z _________________ 5/50, pastel green 11G - SOLD
8/50, gray 11A Beetle
6/52, pastel green 11C - SOLD
11/4/52, black Zwitter - SOLD to my little bro.
1954 Porsche, pre A, with VW 36 horse- SOLD
1/54, black 11C Beetle - TRADED
2/55 Iceland green Beetle, on a 1965 pan
3/55 113 Beetle, stratos silver
1955 Messerschmitt KR175 - SOLD, sadly
1960 single cab
1962 SO33, with SO 42 interior
9/63 Pacific blue, Ghia
'87 Toyota MR2
'02 WestFORDia E-150, GAVE TO OUR SON
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Blue Baron VW Aficionado
Joined: June 16, 2006 Posts: 24119 Location: Southeast USA
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:40 pm Post subject: Re: What month is this engine code? |
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In the photo you can see the year 1964 is stamped. I wonder what the purpose was. _________________ We are striving for perfection, to make our cars run forever, if possible.
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janerick3 Samba Member
Joined: June 04, 2006 Posts: 1879 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:31 pm Post subject: Re: What month is this engine code? |
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Blue Baron wrote: |
In the photo you can see the year 1964 is stamped. I wonder what the purpose was. |
Inspector's stamp from the factory. _________________ Thanks,
Jan K. |
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bwaz Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2004 Posts: 1780
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 9:47 am Post subject: Re: What month is this engine code? |
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so, any idea how long from the time a block was stamped on the side of generator tower, until the time it was built? I assume the stamp was part of the mold, added after it was pulled from the mold or during the pouring of the mold? I assume they were quick to build the cases, but how quick a turnaround I wonder |
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Dan22 Samba Member
Joined: August 30, 2019 Posts: 470 Location: Battle Ground, WA
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: What month is this engine code? |
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My understanding is the A indicates it has the metal cam gear, as opposed to fiber. _________________ 1-0900722 die langsame grüne Schildkröte
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qwerty Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 6:11 pm Post subject: Re: What month is this engine code? |
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Here is some info from VW parts manuals - one page for T1 one page for T2
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qwerty Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2004 Posts: 338
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 6:22 pm Post subject: Re: What month is this engine code? |
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more T2 detail 52-57
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Kjell Roar Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2008 Posts: 1326 Location: Norway
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 6:18 am Post subject: Re: What month is this engine code? |
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dirtbug wrote: |
The stamping "1964" means it was probably rebuilt then, but not sure what the "A" represents or the upside down "2674". Could that mean it was rebuilt Feb 1974 as well?
Thanks again! |
I dont think VW rebuildt the old cases from before 1957 in 1964. In 57 the case was upgraded, better oil channels & stronger, eg around main bearing. My 8/55 (56 YM) got a factory refurbisged engine in 1964, the case is from 9/57. Still runs it today.
I have seen several factory refurbished 36hp engines through the years, but none with the old case. _________________ I got a historic car, every scratch got a history...
My car, Aug. 4th, 1955 / an early 56: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=610438 |
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