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Rebop Samba Member
Joined: April 26, 2021 Posts: 49 Location: Deerfield Beach, FL
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 1:04 pm Post subject: Torque Multiplier tool not fitting? |
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I started the process of replacing the axle seals today and I cannot figure out how this tool is supposed to work. Seems it's just a hair too short or something.
Thanks in advance! |
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raydog Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2006 Posts: 1157 Location: Cape Cod
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 1:20 pm Post subject: Re: Torque Multiplier tool not fitting? |
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I think you have the wrong rotating gear on there, it should have come with two gears. _________________ Come on, It's not rocket science. KISS |
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Rebop Samba Member
Joined: April 26, 2021 Posts: 49 Location: Deerfield Beach, FL
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 1:22 pm Post subject: Re: Torque Multiplier tool not fitting? |
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The other gear is way too big to work. I thought of that too but no luck. I'll try again. |
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FL-Frank Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2015 Posts: 823 Location: Jupiter, Florida
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 1:24 pm Post subject: Re: Torque Multiplier tool not fitting? |
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https://youtu.be/XeoVA3dDSnM
https://youtu.be/MXUr8-bsTbQ
It can be a little fiddly to get it started, but once you figure it out, it’s by far the best tool to remove and torque rear axle nuts and flywheel nuts. _________________ “Tinker Toy” 1967 Savannah Beige Beetle Sedan...........Mostly Original Survivor
“Fritz” 1964 Gulf Blue Karmann Ghia Coupe...Complete Pan-Off Restoration SOLD |
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Rebop Samba Member
Joined: April 26, 2021 Posts: 49 Location: Deerfield Beach, FL
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: Torque Multiplier tool not fitting? |
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The only way I can get it to fit is by flipping the tool around but then there's no way so get a socket on.
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Rebop Samba Member
Joined: April 26, 2021 Posts: 49 Location: Deerfield Beach, FL
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 1:42 pm Post subject: Re: Torque Multiplier tool not fitting? |
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I think it's bent!? I put a straightedge next to it and it's obviously not true. This would explain why it fits on backwards but not in a way it's actually useful as a tool.
Is there someone that sells a decent version of this? We ordered from cip.
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raydog Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2006 Posts: 1157 Location: Cape Cod
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 1:50 pm Post subject: Re: Torque Multiplier tool not fitting? |
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Yup, sure looks bent. Can you heat it up and straighten it out? Any idea how that happened? First time I have seen that. _________________ Come on, It's not rocket science. KISS |
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Rebop Samba Member
Joined: April 26, 2021 Posts: 49 Location: Deerfield Beach, FL
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 2:06 pm Post subject: Re: Torque Multiplier tool not fitting? |
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It's a giant hunk of cast iron. I'm not going to even try to get it hot enough to straighten it.
I'm gonna see if they can exchange it with one that's straight. |
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31266 Location: Hot Arizona
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Rebop Samba Member
Joined: April 26, 2021 Posts: 49 Location: Deerfield Beach, FL
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 2:41 pm Post subject: Re: Torque Multiplier tool not fitting? |
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Their advice was to slot or drill the mounting holes a bit larger. I might try that. They also said this is a common issue but that it's usually bent in the opposite way that the teeth do not engage enough. If someone could make one of these with some decent QC that would be awesome!
I just want to get this done and I don't want to wait weeks for an exchange now that I think about it. On the other hand, if I modify it as they suggested and it still doesn't work, I would likely be out of luck with an exchange or refund.
I'm gonna sleep on it. If I end up modifying it and it works I'll update with photos of the process for anyone that has this issue in the future. It's a shame. This thing was over $100 and now I gotta fool around with it. |
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 33875 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 2:43 pm Post subject: Re: Torque Multiplier tool not fitting? |
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Is this a Torque Meister or a clone? QC was bad for some for a while.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=281232
Get it in an email that they recommend slotting holes, and that your warranty will not be voided by this modification. They can't sell this to another sucker customer, so it is no real loss for them if you mess it up... they owe you a working tool.
If you just bought it, maybe better to find a friend with one (or an impact or other tool), and cancel this purchase on your credit card.
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Rebop Samba Member
Joined: April 26, 2021 Posts: 49 Location: Deerfield Beach, FL
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 3:05 pm Post subject: Re: Torque Multiplier tool not fitting? |
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Quote: |
Is this a Torque Meister or a clone? |
To my knowledge they're all clones now. KYMCO stopped making them a long time ago. |
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Russ1967 Samba Member
Joined: December 29, 2018 Posts: 33
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 6:52 pm Post subject: Re: Torque Multiplier tool not fitting? |
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Bummer.
I got one from them a couple of years ago and it works perfectly.
Send it back for a replacement. |
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AirHead1966 Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2019 Posts: 561 Location: Triad Area NC
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 7:00 pm Post subject: Re: Torque Multiplier tool not fitting? |
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Take it to anyone (garage, machine shop or a friend) who has a 20 ton press. It is a slight bend and likely with a bit of pressure, it will bend the other way. I would try that before enlarging any holes.
FWIW, I bought one from CIP and it works fine for axle nuts and gland nut. |
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pondoras box Samba Member
Joined: March 22, 2004 Posts: 1207 Location: Eerie PA
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 6:13 am Post subject: Re: Torque Multiplier tool not fitting? |
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Got to find one of the original ones, the knock off was never as good as the original from the 90"s. It was called the Torque Meister. They were more expensive but night and day difference. Gone now because of the cheap copies killed them. _________________ Looking for anything from Hal Casey Motors out of Hamburg New York, from license plate surrounds to matchbooks.
1961 23 Window (Bobo)
1965 11 Window (Zelda)
1965 13 Window (Lucas)
1957 Oval ragtop
1988 Cabriolet VR6 conversion
Plus a lot of other rusty junk |
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AoxoMoxoA Samba Member
Joined: May 27, 2019 Posts: 55 Location: New England
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 6:36 am Post subject: Re: Torque Multiplier tool not fitting? |
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Should the part which bolts to the hub be flipped around, so the geared portion sits more outward from the hub?
There is a flanged portion of that part on one side.
Have that side outward? _________________ '66 Beetle 1300 / Bahama Blue |
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chrisflstf Samba Member
Joined: February 10, 2004 Posts: 3412 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 8:33 am Post subject: Re: Torque Multiplier tool not fitting? |
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Socket, 3/4 inch breaker and long pipe. Works very well and cheap |
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ashman40 Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2007 Posts: 15975 Location: North Florida, USA
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 9:36 am Post subject: Re: Torque Multiplier tool not fitting? |
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AoxoMoxoA wrote: |
Should the part which bolts to the hub be flipped around, so the geared portion sits more outward from the hub?
There is a flanged portion of that part on one side.
Have that side outward? |
No, the part that bolts to the drum will only fit the early 5-lug drums one way. You can see it in this pic:
Note that the inner part of the bolt-on plate is cut away to clear the beveled part near the center of the early drum. If you were to flip the plate over the inner holes of the plate will contact the beveled part of the drum before the outer part does and force the plate to tilt so it no longer sits flat against the mounting flange. The above is the only way the plate can mount to the 5-lug drums.
I like the idea of opening the holes in the plate some. My Torque Tool is a very snug fit as if the holes are not exactly the same spacing as the lug holes in the drum. I can force the lug bolts to start threading, but always felt the holes were not drilled correctly. This thread has me leaning towards opening up at least the holes on one edge to allow a easier fit. Once the plate is bolted snug to the flange face the stress is applied in an attempt to shear the lug bolts. So as long as the log bolts are in good condition the loose holes are not a big deal _________________ AshMan40
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'75 Beetle 1200LS (RHD Japan model) {junked due to frame rot}
'67 Beetle #2 {2019 project car - Wish me luck!} |
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Rebop Samba Member
Joined: April 26, 2021 Posts: 49 Location: Deerfield Beach, FL
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 12:36 pm Post subject: Re: Torque Multiplier tool not fitting? |
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I don't even know how I'm going to enlarge these holes. It's 1/2" thick cast steel with 1/2" holes. I guess I could try to use a slightly larger drill bit and take small bites with some oil added to cool and lube. I feel like I only need a millimeter of material removed to get the teeth to mesh. It's so close.
If I had a drill press here it would be a lot easier.
Maybe I can modify the bolts that mount it. That would be a lot easier. The top half doesn't need threads. Hmmm... |
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Russ1967 Samba Member
Joined: December 29, 2018 Posts: 33
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 12:49 pm Post subject: Re: Torque Multiplier tool not fitting? |
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Do you have a rat-tail file?
How about a Dremel? |
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