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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2021 2:12 pm    Post subject: What's going on at Vanagon Owners Group? Reply with quote

Nobody can share what's going on in that facebook group without getting banhammer'd. Does anyone know what happened recently?

Either way, I do hope some change comes out of it.

It certainly reminds me that being an admin is no small task, and some folks who start as an admin within a small group can get very overwhelmed if the group grows exponentially.

Thank you to our admins and mods here at The Samba, I recognize it's a lot of hard work!
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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2021 1:26 am    Post subject: Re: What's going on at Vanagon Owners Group? Reply with quote

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Thank you to our admins and mods here at The Samba, I recognize it's a lot of hard work!


Applause to them from me too
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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2021 4:16 am    Post subject: Re: What's going on at Vanagon Owners Group? Reply with quote

If you dive into a pool of wankers, you will get wanked.

Facebook is full of idiots, simply put
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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2021 5:23 am    Post subject: Re: What's going on at Vanagon Owners Group? Reply with quote

For those of us who have nothing to do with facebook, but are now curious - what happened?
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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2021 7:16 am    Post subject: Re: What's going on at Vanagon Owners Group? Reply with quote

There are admin wankers here to, just less then FB.
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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2021 7:16 am    Post subject: Re: What's going on at Vanagon Owners Group? Reply with quote

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There are admin wankers here to, just less then FB.

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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2021 9:06 am    Post subject: Re: What's going on at Vanagon Owners Group? Reply with quote

I haven't been to the VOG on fb in 3-4 months. My experience is that it's not a bad group. Kirk Meeks of Northwesty started it and there are more than 10K members. For the most part it's folks who may never have done an internet search asking Vanagon questions. There are folks with deep knowledge, some of whom were previously active here but seem to have departed. There are a few outstanding builds happening, my favorite is a patient light blue van that looks like it will be stock. He posts here occasionally. The fb group is more diverse in age, gender, wackiness and other attributes. Like the samba, it also has some pros who wrench on vans for a living.

Overall, it's generally civil and a nice augmentation to the samba, but it's on fb and nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded.
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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2021 10:19 am    Post subject: Re: What's going on at Vanagon Owners Group? Reply with quote

The VOG group is a really great community of people. There are more than 14,000 members and most are very helpful and kind. There are good discussions and not a lot of "Try the search" comments which you find here. I think the point is that we all desire the social part of it. It has been well moderated and things that would go on here for years(Think Insyncro Trolling) would never be tolerated there.

From what I surmise there was a situation where one mod was exercising his power a little too much and was banning and muting people, another mod stood up to him and now they are both gone and only Kirk is left.
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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2021 11:01 am    Post subject: Re: What's going on at Vanagon Owners Group? Reply with quote

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From what I surmise there was a situation where one mod was exercising his power a little too much and was banning and muting people, another mod stood up to him and now they are both gone and only Kirk is left.


I left shortly after one of those mod scuffles. Not because of it, the timing was just coincidental. It was weird because individually each mod seems to be a pretty good contributor but they sure didn't get along with each other at points.
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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2021 11:13 am    Post subject: Re: What's going on at Vanagon Owners Group? Reply with quote

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What's going on at Vanagon Owners Group?


Never heard of them. 14,000 members? I can drive from Florida to California and not see a single classic vw. I'm always wondering where they are hiding. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2021 12:00 pm    Post subject: Re: What's going on at Vanagon Owners Group? Reply with quote

I like the VOG group as eye candy, lots of inspiring photos of both modifications and adventures. The quality/density of samba posts is much more useful, IMO.
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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2021 1:11 pm    Post subject: Re: What's going on at Vanagon Owners Group? Reply with quote

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From what I surmise there was a situation where one mod was exercising his power a little too much and was banning and muting people, another mod stood up to him and now they are both gone and only Kirk is left.


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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2021 1:14 pm    Post subject: Re: What's going on at Vanagon Owners Group? Reply with quote

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What's going on at Vanagon Owners Group?


Never heard of them. 14,000 members? I can drive from Florida to California and not see a single classic vw. I'm always wondering where they are hiding. Wink


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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2021 2:35 pm    Post subject: Re: What's going on at Vanagon Owners Group? Reply with quote

13,900 of the are Vanabots
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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2021 7:38 pm    Post subject: Re: What's going on at Vanagon Owners Group? Reply with quote

Me and the wife are members of many Groups on FB and I will share that, without a doubt, the best Groups are invite only. They don't come up in searches, for very good reasons. It doesn't take much thought to figure out what can go wrong in a group of 14,000 on social media. I find the VOG to be rather stale and void of true technical information. The three Groups I relay on have a few hundred members and not a single bit of bickering, drama or social BS, just straight talk and technical discussions with sharing, mostly PDFs and if you are looking for the hard to find parts, that's where we find them. It's a shame about all the drama. Across multiple other Groups mostly BenT's, quite a few are voicing that they have been silenced and need moderator approval to have their posts seen. Personally, it is 13th grade and too cliquey for us to post. Sure you can see beautiful pictures, but who doesn't have those of their own while out camping in a Vanagon. Our advice, put down the phone, get out and go camping. No wifi needed!
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2021 1:05 am    Post subject: Re: What's going on at Vanagon Owners Group? Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2021 5:57 am    Post subject: Re: What's going on at Vanagon Owners Group? Reply with quote

jimf909 wrote:
...and nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded.

Looks like they all missed it, Yogi.
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2021 8:37 am    Post subject: Re: What's going on at Vanagon Owners Group? Reply with quote

vandroid wrote:
Our advice, put down the phone, get out and go camping. No wifi needed!


This^^
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2021 8:58 am    Post subject: Re: What's going on at Vanagon Owners Group? Reply with quote

candyman wrote:
vandroid wrote:
Our advice, put down the phone, get out and go camping. No wifi needed!


This^^


How will I post pictures of my wife standing on the roof of the van doing yoga? Wink
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2021 9:14 am    Post subject: Re: What's going on at Vanagon Owners Group? Reply with quote

MarkWard wrote:
candyman wrote:
vandroid wrote:
Our advice, put down the phone, get out and go camping. No wifi needed!


This^^


How will I post pictures of my wife standing on the roof of the van doing yoga? Wink


Views and clicks make BIG money for those who know how to use these platforms as an income source. Sex sells, always has. All of the "vanlifers" with feeds dedicated to showing thonged rearends of young women laying in the van looking at the ocean know the market, well. They are cashing in, but we all know that income is needed to keep the van going haha. Prices for parts are rocketing, so I expect we will be seeing more asses.
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