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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2021 6:58 pm    Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey Reply with quote

I have used just one spring, the one opposite the 2 adjusting screws. (RH in your pic)
but I don't know if this is 'correct' Sad
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2021 11:14 am    Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey Reply with quote

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I have used just one spring, the one opposite the 2 adjusting screws. (RH in your pic)
but I don't know if this is 'correct' Sad


I have found numerous pictures of headlight assemblies and it seems odd that so many have only one spring.
I can see that it still works but I am curious if there's a reason for using only one other than one gets lost or broken??
I managed to find one more spring so I'm putting 2 on both headlights.
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2021 11:53 am    Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey Reply with quote

I have 5 headliight bulbs. None have been tested yet. No two of them are a match which is not surprising.
Would any 2 of these be good choices as far as matching up a pair.?

Westinghouse "J14" "8361" that says "Drive Left" but also says "Not for use on USA Hghways! Shocked
Westinghouse "2" "8224" "6014" "R-Beam" ? I wasn't aware that these old Sealed Beam headlights are side specific. Are they?
Sylvania "2D1" "C10"
Wagner "2D1" "6014" "MZK31" "H83"
Wagner "2D1" "Halogen" "8255" "H6324"

Is the halogen light stronger?
Or should I just buy a new pair and if so, what should I install? Not interested in LED.
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2021 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey Reply with quote

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Westinghouse "2" "8224" "6014" "R-Beam" ? I wasn't aware that these old Sealed Beam headlights are side specific. Are they?
Sylvania "2D1" "C10"
Wagner "2D1" "6014" "MZK31" "H83"
Wagner "2D1" "Halogen" "8255" "H6324"

Is the halogen light stronger?
Or should I just buy a new pair and if so, what should I install?
I researched the 6014 and the "R-Beam" designations on internet but could not find anything conclusive. 6014 and 6015 appear to be industry designations for 2-filament (high/low beam) 7" round sealed beams. R-Beam is likely a lamp designed with the light output pattern for right-hand traffic such as in the USA, and not a dedicated lamp for the right side of the car. Both lamps would be identical. R-Beam might also mean "round" headlamp vs the rectangular which was allowed on US cars as of 1974 ('75 model year), though unlikely because both words start with an "r".

On my '64 Ghia I installed Sylvania Halogen sealed-beam lamps in the 1990's. I've avoided driving at night for at least 20 years, but I do remember their light output as excellent and "sufficient". Those have a curved lens design, compared to the traditional flat lens on H4 high/low beam removable bulb style.
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2021 7:27 pm    Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey Reply with quote

Rome wrote:
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Westinghouse "2" "8224" "6014" "R-Beam" ? I wasn't aware that these old Sealed Beam headlights are side specific. Are they?
Sylvania "2D1" "C10"
Wagner "2D1" "6014" "MZK31" "H83"
Wagner "2D1" "Halogen" "8255" "H6324"

Is the halogen light stronger?
Or should I just buy a new pair and if so, what should I install?
I researched the 6014 and the "R-Beam" designations on internet but could not find anything conclusive. 6014 and 6015 appear to be industry designations for 2-filament (high/low beam) 7" round sealed beams. R-Beam is likely a lamp designed with the light output pattern for right-hand traffic such as in the USA, and not a dedicated lamp for the right side of the car. Both lamps would be identical. R-Beam might also mean "round" headlamp vs the rectangular which was allowed on US cars as of 1974 ('75 model year), though unlikely because both words start with an "r".

On my '64 Ghia I installed Sylvania Halogen sealed-beam lamps in the 1990's. I've avoided driving at night for at least 20 years, but I do remember their light output as excellent and "sufficient". Those have a curved lens design, compared to the traditional flat lens on H4 high/low beam removable bulb style.


The Sylvania Halogen comes up as H6024. I found one write up that states anything non halogen is out of date and should be replaced with halogen.
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2021 7:49 pm    Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey Reply with quote

I am running the Sylvania halogens and I am very happy with them while driving at night. Back in the 80’s I ran the Hella H4’s and they were brighter than anything available at the time but I never really liked the look of the flat lens.
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 6:01 pm    Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey Reply with quote

Duncan67KG wrote:
I am running the Sylvania halogens and I am very happy with them while driving at night. Back in the 80’s I ran the Hella H4’s and they were brighter than anything available at the time but I never really liked the look of the flat lens.


Good to know. Thank you. The Sylvania H6024 Halogens were in stock at the local O'Reilly's. The package says rated for 150 hours Shocked
Might be changing headlights with every other oil change! I don't plan to drive at night much, but I am planning to have them
on during the day just to make sure the car is easily seen. They look great and as long as they work, I'm happy.

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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 4:34 am    Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey Reply with quote

Hey, I think you are officially ahead of me now!
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 8:08 am    Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey Reply with quote

Trylon wrote:
Hey, I think you are officially ahead of me now!


Laughing Laughing Feels like I'm moving at a snails pace. Lots of work ahead with doors which are only empty shells right now.
Like you, I have lots of small things that are not needed for state inspection so they will have to wait.
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 6:19 pm    Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey Reply with quote

If you are moving at snails pace then what is my Ghias pace? Laughing Laughing

Yours looks great!
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 7:10 pm    Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey Reply with quote

obus wrote:
If you are moving at snails pace then what is my Ghias pace? Laughing Laughing

Yours looks great!


Thank you. I've read many times on this site to just do something every day so I try to follow that advice. Sometimes it's just doing research or buy a part.
Your car is quite a find. I just love looking at the gaps on your car. The are so even.
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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2021 12:16 pm    Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey Reply with quote

obus wrote:
If you are moving at snails pace then what is my Ghias pace? Laughing Laughing

Yours looks great!


Its just the research and feel out phase. Good to not make too many decisions til you get the feel for her soul.
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2021 6:33 am    Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey Reply with quote

I find at times I go out to the Ghia Haus and just sit and stare at it, or touch parts, or fantasize how it will look with the upholstery and top in place, still trying to figure out color of all. Does that count as spending time with it and doing something? I think so.

I also find myself, too may times, waiting for postings on the Samba and get anxious when no one posts!!!
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2021 7:03 am    Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey Reply with quote

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I find at times I go out to the Ghia Haus and just sit and stare at it, or touch parts, or fantasize how it will look with the upholstery and top in place, still trying to figure out color of all. Does that count as spending time with it and doing something? I think so.

I also find myself, too may times, waiting for postings on the Samba and get anxious when no one posts!!!
Jeff


For me yes. Some days I just do planning, looking for related threads and thinking ahead. Even clean up and get organized again. While the car was in the body shop, I kept thinking about cleaning and restoring parts like window mechanisms, or tail lights, but without the car at my disposal, I though it was pointless. Now that I'm actually doing this, I see that it was the right way to do it. I really need the car here to prep the parts that go back on.
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68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2021 8:03 am    Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey Reply with quote

Marcdeb wrote:
rbsurfguy wrote:
I find at times I go out to the Ghia Haus and just sit and stare at it, or touch parts, or fantasize how it will look with the upholstery and top in place, still trying to figure out color of all. Does that count as spending time with it and doing something? I think so.

I also find myself, too may times, waiting for postings on the Samba and get anxious when no one posts!!!
Jeff


For me yes. Some days I just do planning, looking for related threads and thinking ahead. Even clean up and get organized again. While the car was in the body shop, I kept thinking about cleaning and restoring parts like window mechanisms, or tail lights, but without the car at my disposal, I though it was pointless. Now that I'm actually doing this, I see that it was the right way to do it. I really need the car here to prep the parts that go back on.


well your planning is serving you well thus far! keep on planning!
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2021 10:30 am    Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey Reply with quote

What am I doing wrong!!!

I believe I have all the right parts on the front but these bracket covers again will not let the bumper move all the way in.
The inside lower corner of the bracket cover makes contact with the body while the rest of the covers are as much as 3/8 inch clearance.
What am I doing wrong?

I left all the bolts loose so that I have play in all the parts. It's like I need to pull the bracket covers back but they are already all the way back??
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The front of the car has never been hit. There is no body work anywhere on the front.
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I'm wondering if, like the back bumper, these bracket covers and/or tubes again are the wrong parts for a 71.

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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2021 3:42 pm    Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey Reply with quote

Bumpers have probably been banged around in their lives and the fittings are not to the original shape. You’re going to need reshape things if you are after an exacting fit. Here a some things to consider. A combination might work well enough to close the gap for you.
The covers aren’t supposed to have that flare those seem to have, especially past the attachment bolt. Straightening should have occurred before paint. I don’t see where you have the grommeting glued to the edge facing towards the body. Such grommeting will add a small amount of thickness and close the gap a little more. .
You could try angling the irons upwards. With all that weight it would be natural for the bumpers to sag. Get a jack under each overrider to lift while you reach over the nose with your spanner and tighten. Rest your weight on the car to add as much push as you need.

The support piece has that zig zag which affects the position of the cover. Maybe you can open out the zig zag to get a few millimetres.

The irons have a slotted hole towards the bumper. There is also the curve through 90 degrees they have to meet the bumper. if the curve is an incorrect radius it will put the bumper a fraction out of position. The bolts will go though the slots but the result will be slightly out.

You could try working with just the irons and the covers until you are satisfied with the fit, then build up the rest of the bumpers on the car.


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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2021 5:02 pm    Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey Reply with quote

sputnick60 wrote:
Bumpers have probably been banged around in their lives and the fittings are not to the original shape. You’re going to need reshape things if you are after an exacting fit. Here a some things to consider. A combination might work well enough to close the gap for you.
The covers aren’t supposed to have that flare those seem to have, especially past the attachment bolt. Straightening should have occurred before paint. I don’t see where you have the grommeting glued to the edge facing towards the body. Such grommeting will add a small amount of thickness and close the gap a little more. .
You could try angling the irons upwards. With all that weight it would be natural for the bumpers to sag. Get a jack under each overrider to lift while you reach over the nose with your spanner and tighten. Rest your weight on the car to add as much push as you need.

The support piece has that zig zag which affects the position of the cover. Maybe you can open out the zig zag to get a few millimetres.

The irons have a slotted hole towards the bumper. There is also the curve through 90 degrees they have to meet the bumper. if the curve is an incorrect radius it will put the bumper a fraction out of position. The bolts will go though the slots but the result will be slightly out.

You could try working with just the irons and the covers until you are satisfied with the fit, then build up the rest of the bumpers on the car.


Nicholas.


Great post with lots of knowledge on assembly process.
I would add, you can oval out mount holes to give you more movement, you can shim where needed under bolts (washers) to push out, between bumper mount and bumper.... You can re-form covers, trim/file them as last resort. All the mounts and supports are same size year after year. If you want perfect, it takes extra effort. Compete re-assembly prior to paint helps, but even then you get surprised. Surprise! Surprised

Plenty of ghias on the road may not even have the covers installed, and almost no one notices. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2021 5:13 pm    Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey Reply with quote

sputnick60 wrote:
Bumpers have probably been banged around in their lives and the fittings are not to the original shape. You’re going to need reshape things if you are after an exacting fit. Here a some things to consider. A combination might work well enough to close the gap for you.
The covers aren’t supposed to have that flare those seem to have, especially past the attachment bolt. Straightening should have occurred before paint. I don’t see where you have the grommeting glued to the edge facing towards the body. Such grommeting will add a small amount of thickness and close the gap a little more. .
You could try angling the irons upwards. With all that weight it would be natural for the bumpers to sag. Get a jack under each overrider to lift while you reach over the nose with your spanner and tighten. Rest your weight on the car to add as much push as you need.

The support piece has that zig zag which affects the position of the cover. Maybe you can open out the zig zag to get a few millimetres.

The irons have a slotted hole towards the bumper. There is also the curve through 90 degrees they have to meet the bumper. if the curve is an incorrect radius it will put the bumper a fraction out of position. The bolts will go though the slots but the result will be slightly out.

You could try working with just the irons and the covers until you are satisfied with the fit, then build up the rest of the bumpers on the car.


Nicholas.


Great tips. Thank you again Nicolas. So fortunate to have all the advise from people on this forum. These parts were painted
by the previous owner and I assumed I could use them as is. They were on the car when it arrived. The rubber seals to cover the
forward edge came with the car but not installed. I plan to install them once I ensure that I have everything fitted. I am hoping to
avoid gluing them though Question

I went through some boxes that I had forgotten about. Parts that I had bought from a 71 Vert from Chicago. Fortunately I have
a 2nd set of these parts for comparison. The covers themselves seem to be formed pretty much the same. The irons though are bent
differently on the bracket end. I am 100% sure that the blue parts are original to the 71 model year. But I discovered that one of
the ivory irons is bent outward at the end, basically elongating it. I will have to fix the longer iron. And one of the blue irons is
missing the welded on nut and they don't both have the same angle coming off from the towel bar. One of them is bent for sure.
But my goal is to reuse the ivory set if possible.

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You are correct about the angle of the bumper, I realize now that I did not observe that as much as I should have. I was more
concerned about getting the 4 bracket bolts into the car.

I placed just the covers up against the car and the contour seems to fit well so I need to pay attention to the angle of the bumper.

I am wondering if it might help to remove the bolt from the cover and back it off until the bumper is roughly in position??
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2021 5:30 pm    Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey Reply with quote

c21darrel wrote:
sputnick60 wrote:
Bumpers have probably been banged around in their lives and the fittings are not to the original shape. You’re going to need reshape things if you are after an exacting fit. Here a some things to consider. A combination might work well enough to close the gap for you.
The covers aren’t supposed to have that flare those seem to have, especially past the attachment bolt. Straightening should have occurred before paint. I don’t see where you have the grommeting glued to the edge facing towards the body. Such grommeting will add a small amount of thickness and close the gap a little more. .
You could try angling the irons upwards. With all that weight it would be natural for the bumpers to sag. Get a jack under each overrider to lift while you reach over the nose with your spanner and tighten. Rest your weight on the car to add as much push as you need.

The support piece has that zig zag which affects the position of the cover. Maybe you can open out the zig zag to get a few millimetres.

The irons have a slotted hole towards the bumper. There is also the curve through 90 degrees they have to meet the bumper. if the curve is an incorrect radius it will put the bumper a fraction out of position. The bolts will go though the slots but the result will be slightly out.

You could try working with just the irons and the covers until you are satisfied with the fit, then build up the rest of the bumpers on the car.


Nicholas.


Great post with lots of knowledge on assembly process.
I would add, you can oval out mount holes to give you more movement, you can shim where needed under bolts (washers) to push out, between bumper mount and bumper.... You can re-form covers, trim/file them as last resort. All the mounts and supports are same size year after year. If you want perfect, it takes extra effort. Compete re-assembly prior to paint helps, but even then you get surprised. Surprise! Surprised

Plenty of ghias on the road may not even have the covers installed, and almost no one notices. Smile


Yes, I've seen many photos of Ghias with no bumper bracket covers. But my car will have all it's parts if I can help it. Laughing
I was wondering about adding washers and enlarging the holes to give me more wiggle room, but I also feel like if it went together
properly once, then I'll do my best to get it together again the same way. At some point when all my ideas are exhausted as well as those
offered up by others, then I'll do what I have to do!
Thank you for the help.
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Previously Owned:
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2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata

68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
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