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Abscate Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:39 am Post subject: Re: Beetle predecessors/influences/imposters |
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It looks like Ganz to me....
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finster Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:06 am Post subject: Re: Beetle predecessors/influences/imposters |
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^^ no, ganz is the guy feigning interest in the car in the background whilst taking covert snaps! _________________ "we're here on Earth to fart around" kurt vonnegut
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finster Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:18 am Post subject: Re: Beetle predecessors/influences/imposters |
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adler 2.5 1937
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finster Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:24 am Post subject: Re: Beetle predecessors/influences/imposters |
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GM martia or ad-800 1934
hoffman/mathis 1934
tjaarda/briggs/lincoln 1932
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finster Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:36 am Post subject: Re: Beetle predecessors/influences/imposters |
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one-off ford engined special by freiherr reinhard koenig-fachsenfeld
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Chickensoup Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:04 pm Post subject: Re: Beetle predecessors/influences/imposters |
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damn these are some ugly ass cars _________________ -'85 c10 5.3 LS, 222 cam, long tubes, x pipe, 3 inch spin tech's
-'05 B5.5 TDI Wagon 17in sport rims ;EGR + BSM + ASV Delete, Stage-2 Tune, straight pipe
'65 Tourist Delivery Build
'66 RIP
'69 RIP
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67 Florida Deluxe Samba Purist
Joined: June 21, 2005 Posts: 7987 Location: Gainesville and Tampa, Florida
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lonotch Samba Padrino
Joined: August 28, 2004 Posts: 3304 Location: So. Cal. Oceanside GFK!
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:07 pm Post subject: Re: Beetle predecessors/influences/imposters |
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I can’t say much about it since I signed a NDA, but I was in a studio where cars are designed for a major auto manufacturer, they all have poster boards up with old and newer cars from different manufacturers to get design elements for their own cars, I even saw a notchback on a board once in the early 2000’s, this has been going on for years and years and will still go on, nothing new here and then. _________________ It's not about the window, it's about the people.
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finster Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:27 am Post subject: Re: Beetle predecessors/influences/imposters |
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orix 610
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Chickensoup Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:28 pm Post subject: Re: Beetle predecessors/influences/imposters |
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we all really lucked out that the vw engineers didnt have body line taste like these guys^^^ _________________ -'85 c10 5.3 LS, 222 cam, long tubes, x pipe, 3 inch spin tech's
-'05 B5.5 TDI Wagon 17in sport rims ;EGR + BSM + ASV Delete, Stage-2 Tune, straight pipe
'65 Tourist Delivery Build
'66 RIP
'69 RIP
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allsidius Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:34 pm Post subject: Re: Beetle predecessors/influences/imposters |
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Just some others from my Gallery..
Mercedes Benz 150H sport coupe ca 1935. None survives, most chassis rebodied with the funny Roadster bodies.
Mercedes 130H Sport coupe, earlier version
Mercedes 130H Sport coupe
1937 Mercedes 170H 2-door (look at those rear side windows vs. the Beetle)
Not surprising that Mercedes Benz built almost 40 prototypes for Porsche typ 60 project from V1 to W30 series. _________________ 1973 1303S w sunroof Click to view image
1978 1303 convertible (sold)Click to view image
1966 1300 RIPClick to view image
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allsidius Samba Member
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allsidius Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:41 pm Post subject: Re: Beetle predecessors/influences/imposters |
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67 Florida Deluxe wrote: |
1966 Citroen 2CV
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Not at all, the 2CV is diametrically opposite of the beetle in my view. The only similar things are the sloping rear and the air cooling. I have noticed the huge gap that exist between Beetle and 2CV owners. Both are firmly assured they own the best car in the world, and that the others own the bigges piles of junk ever. _________________ 1973 1303S w sunroof Click to view image
1978 1303 convertible (sold)Click to view image
1966 1300 RIPClick to view image
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Abscate Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:29 am Post subject: Re: Beetle predecessors/influences/imposters |
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...and they are both correct _________________ .ssS! |
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Rome Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:18 am Post subject: Re: Beetle predecessors/influences/imposters |
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This one looks quite awkward with its long and bulging rear fenders, and the comparatively short wheelbase. It reminds me of the longer rear fenders that were available for Beetles in the late '60's/early '70's when installing the longer Corvair engine.
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KTPhil Samba Member
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 1:09 pm Post subject: Re: Beetle predecessors/influences/imposters |
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Another predecessor, conceptually if not quite from an engineering standpoint, is the Hanomag 2/10 "Kommisbrot" from 1925-1928, certainly one of the earliest examples of a German "volkswagen."
This more resembles the Ganz small cars than the later Beetle, in that it is really tiny!
https://jalopnik.com/i-drove-the-earliest-ancestor-of-the-vw-beetle-and-it-w-1660193161
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GArBa Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 8:08 am Post subject: Re: Beetle predecessors/influences/imposters |
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let's not forget of the 1935 FIAT 1500 (designed by Mario Revelli di Beaumont)
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finster Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: Beetle predecessors/influences/imposters |
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another 30s car with a similar profile - framo stromer
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mark tucker Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:17 am Post subject: Re: Beetle predecessors/influences/imposters |
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look for the toyota publica. one fo toyotas first, possiably the first. as you can see from the name...kinda like the peoples car..and...toyota even givs credit to vw for it.as well as the car witch is kinda a squished bug...with...2 cylinder oposed air cooled engine...in the front...front wheel drive. oh well they almost got it right...we had one I think it was a 62,I dont remember for sure.I was my brothers.it sounded like a bug too.it was a slug but it was a car.and thats what they wanted to build trying to break into the nissan /mitcheybitchey dominated japan car market after the war. honda tried to make piston rings for toypta but the quality wasent consistant...and thus mr honda started out on his own putting surpluss engines on bikes.and black market gassoline. it evolved into the honda cub and then to the honda we all okow today. the cub was probably the highest selling motor cycle of all time.it was made to branch the bike,scooter/motor cycle gap.and it did that very well sold around the world as fast as they could manufacture them. |
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finster Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:42 pm Post subject: Re: Beetle predecessors/influences/imposters |
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the publica looks like a trabant with a 2cv engine to me...however the toyopet sa of 47 is more beetle shaped as seen here
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