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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anchovy wrote:
I got this reply from Barden in response to my inquiry. I sent the VW manual photo and gave the 6V, 84Amp/Hr rating.

Sounds like it is a UK battery reference 501, but I do not know if you use the same numbers in U.S.

6v 84ah dimensions 226mm long 175mm wide x 220mm high maximum.


Sorry to drag up an old thread.

What was the actual dimensions of the battery in the end?

I checked with my local specialist the other day and they said that the 501 battery and these dimensions don't match up.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anchovy wrote:
Here is a scan from January of 1954 owners manual. Notice that the battery cover has the insulating particle board riveted to the steel, rather than the later covers that have the board crimped in place with tabs. Also note that the cover has three cut-outs for cables where one is not used. Ev's later early bus cover only has 2 cut-outs as well as those shown in post 55 bus manuals.

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The riveted ones are generally consider to be Split Bug covers but I believe they were used on Barndoor Buses during the same time period.

I think 54-55 Barndoors have the same 3-hole cover but with the non-riveted board.

Original cover from a '54 Bus:
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I´m was researching info in my spare parts manual and this is what I find about covers and springs/straps.

#1 SIZE: 6 7/8" x 8 3/4"
till vin 20-041711 hold by two springs.
from 20-041712 to 20-117901 hold by an early strap: end attaches with nut onto battery tray threaded post (see 1st photo on the next Everett´s post)

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#2 SIZE: 6 7/8" x 7 3/4" (see below, the one on the left)
6v 66Ah battery´s cover from 20-117902 up to 216190000 hold by later strap 395 millimeters: end folds over hook on battery tray (see 2nd photo on the next Everett´s post)


#3 SIZE: 6 7/8" x 8 3/4" (see below, the one in the middle)
(M168) 6v 88Ah battery´s cover from 20-117902 up to 216190000 mostly USA, hold by a strap 395 millimeters

#4 SIZE: 6 7/8" x 9 7/8" (see below, the one on the right)
(M620, and standard equipment after 1st august 1966) hold by a strap 422 millimeters

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1955 spare parts manual

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1967 spare parts manual

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buba,
Thanks for researching the various parts books and posting that information.

Buba wrote:
#2 SIZE: 6 7/8" x 7 3/4" (see below, the one on the left)
6v 66Ah battery´s cover from 20-117902 up to 216190000 hold by later strap 395 millimeters (i don´t know the difference between the early and late strap)


Barndoor strap, end attaches with nut onto battery tray threaded post:
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Post-Barndoor strap, end folds over hook on battery tray:
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great!! thanks for that information, I will edit the information above.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hello,

I dig this post as I'd like to know what the part #19 called "battery well mat" looks like ?
I've never seen one. Anyone has a picture ?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:24 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Battery Reply with quote

I think it's these 2 strips:
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This guy has an ad for some repros with other photos:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1451029
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:08 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Battery Reply with quote

Great ! Thanks Everett.
If someone has NOS one for sale please let me know Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:48 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Battery Reply with quote

For those who are interested in the battery technology?
I found this German lecture of the Bosch battery, dated 6/1961.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Battery Reply with quote

For all the Swedish Barndoor owners.
I found this leaflet of SAAJ batteries, dated 1953.
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 9:15 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Battery Reply with quote

EverettB wrote:
I think it's these 2 strips:
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This guy has an ad for some repros with other photos:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1451029

Please can someone post up the dimensions of these battery mats?
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