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calvinater Samba Member
Joined: September 06, 2014 Posts: 3333 Location: 802 The Pointless Forrest
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 12:45 pm Post subject: New concrete floor |
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Whats your favourite topping for a fresh concrete slab, both for summer weddings and winter car parking. _________________ "Albatross"! |
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Xevin Samba Member
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 1:31 pm Post subject: Re: New concrete floor |
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calvinater wrote: |
Whats your favourite topping for a fresh concrete slab, both for summer weddings and winter car parking. |
10W-30 _________________ Keep on Busin'
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GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51155 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 3:19 pm Post subject: Re: New concrete floor |
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Xevin wrote: |
calvinater wrote: |
Whats your favourite topping for a fresh concrete slab, both for summer weddings and winter car parking. |
10W-30 |
But how much zinc?, and what about after break in? _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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calvinater Samba Member
Joined: September 06, 2014 Posts: 3333 Location: 802 The Pointless Forrest
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 3:52 pm Post subject: Re: New concrete floor |
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Cmon guys , this is for a customer , and i know coatings have evolved recently.
Anyone with experience with an epoxy type coating? _________________ "Albatross"! |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51155 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 4:04 pm Post subject: Re: New concrete floor |
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I used a 2 part epoxy floor paint on my shop floor 21 years ago, looks great and is easy to clean, I've scrootched off a few spots dragging heavy shit on it, and there's some spots wearing thin in high traffic areas, but overall it's way better than bare concrete.
No doubt formulas have improved, or maybe not, the stuff today may be "environmentally friendly", we all know how that's a long way to spell "sucks". _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 34022 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 4:17 pm Post subject: Re: New concrete floor |
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babysnakes Samba Member
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:22 pm Post subject: Re: New concrete floor |
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busdaddy wrote: |
I used a 2 part epoxy floor paint on my shop floor 21 years ago, looks great and is easy to clean, I've scrootched off a few spots dragging heavy shit on it, |
I want one of these epoxy coatings but I am concerned about floor jacks and stands causing a fubar situation. |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51155 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:45 pm Post subject: Re: New concrete floor |
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babysnakes wrote: |
busdaddy wrote: |
I used a 2 part epoxy floor paint on my shop floor 21 years ago, looks great and is easy to clean, I've scrootched off a few spots dragging heavy shit on it, |
I want one of these epoxy coatings but I am concerned about floor jacks and stands causing a fubar situation. |
I followed the instructions and etched it first, jacks and stands have no effect on it, it did scrape off in places when dragging a milling machine across it, and a few other places where heavy sharp things dug in, the stuff beside the scrapes is still stuck fine.
The only thing that's marked it is where a battery leaked and I didn't find it for months (bubbled up) and one place where I put newspaper flyers under a caliper job and the brake fluid soaked through and transferred the ink.
We also put poly sheeting under the slab before we poured it, the lack of moisture from below may play a part in the formula. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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raygreenwood Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2008 Posts: 21520 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 8:59 pm Post subject: Re: New concrete floor |
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The question is....are you looking for some kind of "chemical proof" barrier...or just a good sealed surface that is easy to keep uniform and clean looking?
If you need it sealed....there are numerous excellent two part epoxy systems like those being described.
As BD is getting at...like everything....prep is key and yes....keeping moisture from the backside will make it stay attached longer.
The other issue with ANYTHING epoxy based....is humidity while mixing and pouring. It can screw up curing and adhesion.
If you are just looking for a good looking smooth floor that makes cleaning up spills better....use a "dry-shake" style concrete dye....with a float concrete style application. Some use "integrally colored" concrete...where they add dye to teh concrete.
Then when its still wet....add a "dry shake" dye on top. With float style concrete....you leave a thin film of water on the top as it cures. This makes that slick polished type orf concrete you find inside of houses and buildings where the concrete will not be covered.
It makes a tighter surface. And...with a dry shake dye,....if you screw it up you can re-dye it to some extent. Ray |
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my59 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 12:08 am Post subject: Re: New concrete floor |
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It's a new slab, so it needs to fully cure before anything gets painted on or soaked in. _________________ my59: Well son, my grandfather died before I got to drive it, so does that answer your question?
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calvinater Samba Member
Joined: September 06, 2014 Posts: 3333 Location: 802 The Pointless Forrest
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 3:57 am Post subject: Re: New concrete floor |
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Definitely using plastic, wire mesh, and probably fibre mesh in mix. Trouble is customer wants to use for wedding less than two weeks after placing concrete, they have no idea of timing, or what it takes to make things last.
Probably gonna have to clean , etch, epoxy after it has been used. Not ideal but
It is what it is. Any thing we can add to mix to avoid having to top coat? _________________ "Albatross"! |
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Letterman7 Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2004 Posts: 3198 Location: Downingtown, PA
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 5:44 am Post subject: Re: New concrete floor |
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How big is the slab? If they want a wedding on it two weeks after the pour, I'd sell them on some of those click-together rubber tiles. Standing on concrete for hours is no fun, a cushioned tile makes life much easier. Then, they can properly wait for the cure to put whatever topcoat they want. I haven't done the epoxy coatings personally, but I know people that have with no issues. |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51155 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 7:44 am Post subject: Re: New concrete floor |
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I'll bet you can rent some great big rugs from an event company, that'll make it pretty and hopefully protect it until it's fully cured. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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KTPhil Samba Member
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 9:26 am Post subject: Re: New concrete floor |
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Rugs are a good idea.
If you really want something all over, try the click-together plastic tiles (either solid or mesh), and you can be clever and start with a pattern with their name or wedding date spelled out, then reconfigure them to something else (cheered flag, red/white/blue, etc) after, at little expense. |
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Q-Dog Samba Member
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RIX70Bay Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2017 Posts: 45 Location: moved to Iowa
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 11:39 am Post subject: Re: New concrete floor |
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I am currently building a steel building type garage and thinking of an epoxy coating on the floor. What do you guys think of the two-part epoxy kit they sell at Lowes? _________________ Rick
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51155 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: New concrete floor |
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Just found an old can, the stuff I used was Amerlock 400 high solids epoxy coating, no complaints after 21 years. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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calvinater Samba Member
Joined: September 06, 2014 Posts: 3333 Location: 802 The Pointless Forrest
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: New concrete floor |
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thanks to everyone who responded, i am a carpenter not a concrete ace, just trying to get the best results for the customer, concrete guy has no opinion on topping, not my choice of contractor. _________________ "Albatross"! |
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