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carguytroy Samba Member
Joined: September 11, 2018 Posts: 294 Location: Utah
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Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 7:21 pm Post subject: Oil Change After Initial Break In |
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Engine is in the Ghia and I’ve ran it for 15-20 minutes to break in the cam. Also ran the engine 4-5 times setting timing, carbs, ran around the block etc. Should I change out the oil now or leave it and run it for a while? |
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jeffrey8164 Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2018 Posts: 3815 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 7:32 pm Post subject: Re: Oil Change After Initial Break In |
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You should change it, if for no other reason than to rinse out any extraneous sealant residue and see if it has metal in it. _________________ Volkswagen!
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“Let he that is without oil throw the first rod”
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vwracerdave Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2004 Posts: 15302 Location: Deep in the 405
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Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: Oil Change After Initial Break In |
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Change the oil and adjust the valves. Again at 300 miles and again at 1000 miles. _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76897 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 4:42 am Post subject: Re: Oil Change After Initial Break In |
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Yes, you want to get all the debris from the cam break in and rings seating.
I would do it at 200/500/1000/3000. _________________ Glenn
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UK Luke 72 Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2011 Posts: 2867 Location: Little Britain
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esde Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2007 Posts: 5967 Location: central rust belt
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Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 11:25 am Post subject: Re: Oil Change After Initial Break In |
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If you run a full flow filter, I like to cut the filter that was used on break in open, just to check what was picked up. _________________ modok wrote:
Bent cranks are silent but gather no moss. I mean, ah, something like that. |
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Ohio Tom Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2006 Posts: 1660 Location: Marshallville Ohio
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Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: Oil Change After Initial Break In |
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Run it one more time and get her hot before dumping the oil. You want to let it drain for a long time to try and get as much metals particles out.
Don't be alarmed to see the oil having a pearl-essence look to it. |
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carguytroy Samba Member
Joined: September 11, 2018 Posts: 294 Location: Utah
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Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 3:59 pm Post subject: Re: Oil Change After Initial Break In |
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The oil has a gasoline smell to it. Figured I would drain it tonight. Run it for minute to check and make sure the thermostat is adjusted where I want it then drain all the oil. The gas smell isn't terrible strong but you can definitely smell fuel. It doesn't seem to have any pearl look to it. I used that Royal Purple break in oil. Looks black with a slight purple tint to it. |
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carguytroy Samba Member
Joined: September 11, 2018 Posts: 294 Location: Utah
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Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 4:59 am Post subject: Re: Oil Change After Initial Break In |
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Should I put break in oil back in it or just run the oil I plan to use normally? I am planning on using Valvoline VR1 10-30 with the higher zinc content for its regular diet, but not sure if that should go in now or after the next oil change. |
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txoval Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2004 Posts: 3553 Location: The Woodlands, TX
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Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 5:30 am Post subject: Re: Oil Change After Initial Break In |
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If you have breakin oil use it, but if not the VR-1 is good |
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 10:08 am Post subject: Re: Oil Change After Initial Break In |
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you should of changed it befor the run around the block witch may of bypassed the filter sending all that breakin debris to the bearings. |
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Matthew Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2004 Posts: 1760 Location: Eastern Tennessee
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Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 10:24 am Post subject: Re: Oil Change After Initial Break In |
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carguytroy wrote: |
Should I put break in oil back in it or just run the oil I plan to use normally? I am planning on using Valvoline VR1 10-30 with the higher zinc content for its regular diet, but not sure if that should go in now or after the next oil change. |
I’d dump it cold rather than running it one more time on that oil. Pull the valve covers and clean them as debris normally accumulates at the edge of the gasket where it protrudes slightly above the valve cover bottom.
What oil was used for break-in? _________________ 1965 Beetle sedan
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carguytroy Samba Member
Joined: September 11, 2018 Posts: 294 Location: Utah
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Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: Oil Change After Initial Break In |
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Matthew wrote: |
carguytroy wrote: |
Should I put break in oil back in it or just run the oil I plan to use normally? I am planning on using Valvoline VR1 10-30 with the higher zinc content for its regular diet, but not sure if that should go in now or after the next oil change. |
I’d dump it cold rather than running it one more time on that oil. Pull the valve covers and clean them as debris normally accumulates at the edge of the gasket where it protrudes slightly above the valve cover bottom.
What oil was used for break-in? |
Royal Purple break in oil is what I used. Im going to drain it cold, run it a bit then change it again. oil is cheaper than another rebuild. |
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carguytroy Samba Member
Joined: September 11, 2018 Posts: 294 Location: Utah
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Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 5:00 pm Post subject: Re: Oil Change After Initial Break In |
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mark tucker wrote: |
you should of changed it befor the run around the block witch may of bypassed the filter sending all that breakin debris to the bearings. |
That's encouraging. I ran it maybe 100 yards total. Down to the corner and back. Around the block is a slight exaggeration. Very slight. |
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carguytroy Samba Member
Joined: September 11, 2018 Posts: 294 Location: Utah
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Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 5:02 pm Post subject: Re: Oil Change After Initial Break In |
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txoval wrote: |
If you have breakin oil use it, but if not the VR-1 is good |
Right on, think I'll snag some more break in oil if thats better. Oil is cheaper than another rebuild. Think I said that already. True though. |
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 10:28 am Post subject: Re: Oil Change After Initial Break In |
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the oil filters have a rubber/silycone flapper & some have spring too in them for a bypass valve...all it take is a little presure differential between the incomming and out going oil. it dont take a lot to bypass that especialy when the filter is already cloged with 1 cam lube that clogs filters,2 the debris that comes off the rings/cylinders,lifters,lobes.and any thing else thats "breaking in"(pushrod tips,rocker tips&adjusters, gears). thats a lot of fine abrasive..and a filter thats already over whelmed with cam lube creating a restriction..thus opening the bypass valve and sending that shit to the bearings....go figure there is a reason for doing a few oil/filter changes in the first week!! and why more than 1?? because that cam lube will take quite some time to all get out as it slings off and sticks and settels..and comes up when it wants to and gets cought in the filter.thus do a filter/oil change at the 35-40 min mark, and run some more so not so much settels in the sump. or...why bother changing it at all.it's still slipery. |
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