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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2021 1:30 am    Post subject: Front body mount to beam and rubber spacers Reply with quote

I removed the front body mount sheet metal for the project I am working on and need to bolt it in place to weld it back on. Only one side had an isolator under it and it was squished pretty flat to less than 1/8", The isolators on the are reusable.

I temporarily put the crossmember back in with nothing between the body tabs and the beam. Problem is, the crossmember lines up good where I need to reattach it to the rest of the body. Whatever I put between the body and the beam is going to make the panels not line up. I didn't notice any load on the sheet metal when I removed the crossmember.

Which isolators go between the body and beam? Here are some pics of what I'm talking about. Thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2021 5:45 am    Post subject: Re: Front body mount to beam and rubber spacers Reply with quote

Thus the reason why the old pads were so compressed, the crossmember supports the body on the beam. You should have the thick pads between the body & the beam. Weld the crossmember in place without the pads, then, after it is solidly mounted, either loosen/remove all of the forward pan bolts, or drop the beam enough so that you can insert the body pads.
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2021 10:40 am    Post subject: Re: Front body mount to beam and rubber spacers Reply with quote

Air conditioner?
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2021 10:44 am    Post subject: Re: Front body mount to beam and rubber spacers Reply with quote

https://www.thingparts.com/shock-pad-set-whole-car-with-metal-mounting-clamp/
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2021 10:55 am    Post subject: Re: Front body mount to beam and rubber spacers Reply with quote

74 Thing wrote:
https://www.thingparts.com/shock-pad-set-whole-car-with-metal-mounting-clamp/


That’s the upper.
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2021 12:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Front body mount to beam and rubber spacers Reply with quote

KAmes wrote:
Air conditioner?


Some form of Electric AC

Check out his photo gallery
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2021 1:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Front body mount to beam and rubber spacers Reply with quote

Semper_Dad wrote:
KAmes wrote:
Air conditioner?


Some form of Electric AC

Check out his photo gallery


That's kinda groovy. I didn't know that existed, but of course it does for electric cars.
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2021 11:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Front body mount to beam and rubber spacers Reply with quote

I got the correct pads from a local shop today. As suspected they are about 12mm which is sort of irrelevant. The shoulder on the beam only allows the body to tighten down so far. With everything torqued down the crossmember is 6mm+ too high.

TCTDI: i think that's my next move to loosen some of thr fwd body bolts

Yes, it's an electric brushless a/c comoressor. Data sheet says 40amps. We'll see how well thr Subaru alternator handles it.

Got the idea cause the jets that have a vapor cycle system use a motor driven comoressor. Albeit brushed and drawing a little over 100amps + the condensor blower (brushed too).

It looks like some weekend race cars run a similar setup.

There are electric cars and hybrids that run electric compressors but they operate at high voltage. Ran across a YouTube about a Prius compressor that is electric driven and engine driven.

I'll write a seperate thread about the ac.
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2021 9:25 am    Post subject: Re: Front body mount to beam and rubber spacers Reply with quote

There are many different thickness' of shock pads available:

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=742662&highlight=shock+pad
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2021 10:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Front body mount to beam and rubber spacers Reply with quote

Here's a pic of the rubbers. Left to right is new bottom, old bottom, old top.
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The new one is about the same size as the old, just twice as thick.

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Think im going to take it to the bandsaw.

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