andrigs fan

[mark tucker]

lets give his fan a chance. do do like was done to atom works thingys they did look good...did they work?? I havent a clue, but they were pretty. everybody bashed them and most had niver seen them...he is gone.perhaps he could of made something that was relly something that was needed that worked...who knows.
but we need to give this fan a chance to be proven one way or the other. in every way. it may cool better. it might not be any diferance in cooling but it shouldent come appart,and probably wont have anywhere neer the vibration the steel fans do. also if it does hapopen to come appart it probably wont turn your engine into a holly relic. so even if the cooling dosent change it may have other disirable bennifits. thats what we need to find out.with real worls usage figures, not pissing and moaning about the material it's made from or oh that cant work. yes I have questions. and only good UNBIASED testing can answer them. we all remember jakes majick cooling system , that in the end was discontiunued due to it not doing any better than the oe stuff....or after market stuff after years of this is the best!! well it wassent. these fans are sold out, how many I dont have a clue. but there are some out there. thats good and thats bad. there are oh so many people that blame problems on the rong parts/person/shop etc all the time. and then there is the wishfull thinking they this thing works so good now...but thats just to justify the $ in the owners head... so we have to filter through all this.as well as the guy who uses it on a car that has little to no tin or seals and will never run cool...or the guy in alaska whos car never could run hot. and new builds...there is no base line unless a blind fan blade only swap is done to see results... and then what fan it is compared to??? Imho a road race car would be a awesome test bed. possiably a baja racer. and some good street cars that have good base lines. as well as buses on the edge of hot. and some cars with power pullys. Ive never had cooling issues.Ive never run power pullys. this may also be a good canadate for drag cars that take off the belt to run...use this along with a half size pully( half the size of a power pully) so very little hp draw, no chance of fan comming appart and keeping hot spots away.
we need it all, but we need good true reliable info that can be eazely related to the normal builds, normal cars, big motors, small motors. everything. perhaps a spread sheet that can be checked off.....ya right. but we do need to give it a chance. WTF it may really work, last and not come appart.!!!

[busdaddy]

Here's a link to the part ad for those who missed this thread: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=755740
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[Lo Cash John]

I'll be adding my name to the waiting list. For the price, I'm 100% on board with giving it a shot. Kudos to him for thinking outside the box, trying something new and bringing it to market. That's how SubaruGears got started and he's done amazingly.
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[Vanapplebomb]

I would love to know what it is made of.

There are a wide range of polymers out there, with very different properties. Without knowing what it is made of, there is no way to judge what percentage by weight of water it will absorb over time, and how much that reduces the strength long term. Also, how UV stable is it? If it is used in a buggy and exposed to sunlight (UV radiation), how brittle will it become? Can this cause it to come apart at high revs or rapid engine acceleration? Who knows…

Without knowing what it is made of, only time will tell I guess. I am hoping these sort of things were taken into account during the design process.

In either case, I commend the designer for taking the time to introduce a new product. It is things like this that keep a hobby alive and interesting.
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[Chickensoup]

imma order one when i get back from FL. I figure i can use it on my stock tin 1385cc and transfer it over to my 2180 when i finish that. Like many have said the price is great, and if it works better than stock than cool. if not then oh well.
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[DerrickfromNC1]

To Andrigs......Can you provide some details on the “all new” cooling system you referred to in the previous thread b4 it was locked?

[Dan Ruddock]

Did the OP ask for original thread to be shut down or was it the originator of the product? If it has good volume at lower revs might work well with power pulley. I will let others be the Guinee pig. I have no problem with cooling on my engines but more is always a good thing.

Dan

[busdaddy]

[richierich]

I'm going to give one a shot too. Props to someone trying to do something new and innovative but sadly, not surprised in the slightest that he copped a load of shit on here for it.
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[raygreenwood]

[richierich]

[Scott65Beetle]

I'm on the list. I love the idea that someone is trying things to improve.

[txoval]

The fan is light and fits snugly on the alternator bushing. There were no clearance issues related to the backing plate or shroud.

My engine is still 2-3 weeks from running and I’ll report back. Spinning the alternator in the shroud, it pushes a lot of air. What does that mean, not sure at this point.

We should let those who have it report back versus arguing over materials and how it relates to a Type 3 or 4...

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[buguy]

I think i will get on the list too. I have nothing to lose, and if it helps product development for the hobby i am all in on that.

[raygreenwood]

[Vanapplebomb]

Applegreen, please stop, let’s not go down that rabbit hole again. If you want to suggest things like we probably work for EMPI, then don’t be upset if this thread deteriorates and gets locked…again.

I think it is perfectly valid to question material. Polymers can be particularly fussy with their environment. UV radiation and water absorption are my two concerns. Knowing the material would help us judge the long term stability of the product, just as the material of a connecting rod or crankshaft gives us some idea of how much abuse it can take.

Without knowing a material, all we can do is wait 5-10 years or so and see what happens.

I would love to see how it holds up in an open buggy exposed to UV radiation. Hopefully someone buys it to test in a harsh environment like that.

Looking forward to results.
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[richierich]

[jeff68]

I'm on the list as well. IMO it's about time that someone tried to improve the cooling fan, which most likely has been done. I, like the others that bought one or are waiting for one will find out if it works but I'm very optimistic.