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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

Lately I have noticed that the euroBus has a dull clunk up front, not hard though, when I back up at full steering lock. I have looked and cannot find anything rubbing and it is definitely from the front end and every wheel rotation. This was there with the Nokians so it is not the new tires per se.

I had a thought that maybe it was the front wheel bearing so I jacked up the passenger front and there was a little more play at 12/6 than I would want, but nothing egregious.

I pulled the bearing cap off and very slightly tightened the bearing to the proper play.

Then I thought well maybe I should check the driver's side too of course.

The drivers side had about the same play (neither side had been adjusted after the bearings were installed a few thousand miles ago) so I pulled that bearing cap..... and out came a sea foam blue goo.... Shocked the grease that I have been using is a dark blue. No bueno.

I removed the brake disc with the bearings and noticed that when I pulled off the disc the inner bearing seal was hung up on the spindle... hmmmm. Looks like the seal lip had gotten damaged when I installed it the first time and was letting water past and into the bearings which made a nice frothy mix. I cleaned everything up, repacked the bearings twice, installed a new seal and all seems well. The spindle surface looked fine as did the bearings.

It was lucky that I did this maintenance now or I'd have prematurely failed wheel bearings somewhere in Europe in the future.

Oh... I never did solve that clunk. I'll just not back up at full lock... that will solve it. Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

The dash blower fan occasionally makes a squeak when running so it was time to lube it. The Mullendore port operation is excellent under this situation.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0

Two good squirts of TriFlow directly on the bearing while running on low and the fan motor is very happy... and so am I.

I was one cell off on my holes so the far right hole was not used. Shine the headlamp through the middle hole and look up at the end of the bearing from the left hole. Use TriFlow with a long tube (heat shrink tubing two together) up in the left hole and set it right up near the end of the bearing you can see. It takes a few trial looks to get the right angle to see the end of the bearing.

Seal the holes up with aluminum HVAC tape. Bob's your uncle.





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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:44 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

dobryan wrote:
The complete a/c system has been sold and will live on in another bus.

$35,530
-$700 a/c sold
$34,830 total


I wished it happened in my country. Full set would have been mine. I had spoiled front ac duct. I got one through The samba classifields. Later my friend brought it for me when he visited my Country.

I also appreciate you keep cost of your project. I did not. I got scared. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:07 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

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I also appreciate you keep cost of your project. I did not. I got scared. Smile


I was/am too. Shocked

I'll never keep track like this on any of my other cars (except the 1977 911 I am restoring but that is for insurance purposes). I am shocked at how much $$$ it adds up to. My initial estimate will be low by $10,000 - $15,000. And of course my labor is free...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:45 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

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narendra.vw wrote:


I also appreciate you keep cost of your project. I did not. I got scared. Smile


I was/am too. Shocked

I'll never keep track like this on any of my other cars (except the 1977 911 I am restoring but that is for insurance purposes). I am shocked at how much $$$ it adds up to. My initial estimate will be low by $10,000 - $15,000. And of course my labor is free...


Even more so in that you seem fairly sensible in your spending (comparing to myself 😬) no fancy bumpers, seats - all pretty straight forward necessities. This will be a fantastic thread for the newb vanagon owner with large ambitions. A bit of a reality check. “Read before clicking the ‘buy now’ button” Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

I am also thankful for Dave's running total. The pennies do really add up and being practical (lubing that blower motor instead of replacing it) is a way of life we should all follow. Must be something about the engineer's mindset!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:50 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

dobryan wrote:
Received my 272 ah LiFePO4 batteries about a month ago. Finally getting around to doing the top balance...

All cells were at 3.300 when received.


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And the top balance is complete. It took 16 days.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:41 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

The LiFePO4 battery build is progressing nicely.

I used thin cutting boards between the cells so they could not make any contact (the blue tape they come with is very thin and needs to be insulated to keep the cell body from making contact if the blue tape is damaged.

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Fiberglass packing tape was used to hold the cells together.

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I used 1/4" cutting boards to create a frame around the battery. This does not really provide compression but will allow me to use the battery as one unit and it provides a durable cover for the battery to prevent damage. (I am really not a fan of having individual cells just waiting to get damaged. It makes me very nervous.)

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And the Overkill BMS completes the setup.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:53 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

Great information throughout this thread. Thanks.

Do you also subscribe to the multiple-multimeters school of measuring electricity? I see four meters in this photo. It looks like my garage when I'm diagnosing electrical issues.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:09 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

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Do you also subscribe to the multiple-multimeters school of measuring electricity? I see four meters in this photo. It looks like my garage when I'm diagnosing electrical issues.



I was curious how they'd stack up against each other. Pleasantly surprised they were all about exactly the same. Only a variation of one number in the last digit at the max.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:56 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

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Beautifully done! Great setup, very nicely constructed.

(translation= dammit Dave!! Now I want one Smile)
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:44 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

Nice work, Dave. I especially like the high-current terminals that Overkill has added to the Xiaoxiang BMS and the heavy gauge cables you have used. Very clever use of the cutting board "handles" too!

And now embarrassing question - - are you just gonna let that Bluetooth dongle dangle? Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:49 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

Howesight wrote:
are you just gonna let that Bluetooth dongle dangle? Wink


That is what they do best....
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

Took out the two 80AH AGMs and in goes the 272AH LiFePO4. More than three times the usable capacity and way lighter and a little smaller.
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I will wire it up tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

That's great looking Dave. Impressed, as usual.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:18 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

I added a handle to the seat to aid in pulling it up when it is in the bed position. I used a small screwdriver and a lighter to melt holes thru the strap so it would not tear through.

Easy peasy.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:22 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

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well that's pretty damn smart. i guess i didn't melt your brain completely this past weekend Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:23 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

dabaron wrote:
i guess i didn't melt your brain completely this past weekend Laughing


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:23 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

That's a brilliant idea, Dave!



Stealing it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

I finally installed a tracker.

https://smile.amazon.com/Keelin-TK419-4G-LTE-Real-...amp;sr=8-1

It was drop dead easy to use.

Just insert an active sim card and connect 12V and it is ready to use.

It has all kinds of other options that I may use later. Cool

I have it above the metal roof of the bus squirreled away in the NAHT. Reception should be excellent.

I'll buy a European sim card when I get over there.

And now my wife can stalk me.....

$35,010
$65 GPS tracker
$35,075
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