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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2021 12:31 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

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I din't want to highjack anyones thread but you guys are scaring me with all of the ill fitting rubber seal stories. Yikes! By the time i get ready to do mine i may know all of the ones to NOT use!


And it's not just gaskets and seals. I'm finding just about every reproductions part needs some level of modification

Pair of 70/71 Euro Tail Lights from CIP1. They look fantastic, in fact side by side with the originals, it's very difficult to tell the difference. BUT: They didn't fit without grinding down part of the back side. I almost gave up on them and then figured out what needed to be done. The manufacturer and the seller obviously are not test fitting these parts. They could fix the problem in minutes, and have happy customers.

Pair of 70/71 Armrests from CIP1. Half an inch too small. The threaded posts don't line up with the factory holes in the original door panels. Fine if you have reproduction door panels, or if you don't mind drilling a new hole in the original door panels. Shocked I was not impressed with CIP1's reply about this. I had to pay return shipping to return them.

What I've seen so far makes me wonder how these companies get away with selling this stuff!
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2021 12:37 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

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I din't want to highjack anyones thread but you guys are scaring me with all of the ill fitting rubber seal stories. Yikes! By the time i get ready to do mine i may know all of the ones to NOT use!


And it's not just gaskets and seals. I'm finding just about every reproductions part needs some level of modification

Pair of 70/71 Euro Tail Lights from CIP1. They look fantastic, in fact side by side with the originals, it's very difficult to tell the difference. BUT: They didn't fit without grinding down part of the back side. I almost gave up on them and then figured out what needed to be done. The manufacturer and the seller obviously are not test fitting these parts. They could fix the problem in minutes, and have happy customers.

Pair of 70/71 Armrests from CIP1. Half an inch too small. The threaded posts don't line up with the factory holes in the original door panels. Fine if you have reproduction door panels, or if you don't mind drilling a new hole in the original door panels. Shocked I was not impressed with CIP1's reply about this. I had to pay return shipping to return them.

What I've seen so far makes me wonder how these companies get away with selling this stuff!


Ugh. I have been fortunate as the Bus is mostly done and there really isnt alot to a bus and even the The Thing is very simple and other than the rear elephant feet turn signal lenses, finding the correct stuff for it has been relatively easy and the repop stuff is pretty decent for Things. This Ghia may wind up giving me severe agita! Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2021 2:24 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

Happy 61st Birthday to Schatze!
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2021 6:28 am    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

Happy Birthday indeed! Mine turns 50 in July, can't wait for cake!!!
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2021 8:02 am    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

lol. The only thing "cake" related on mine is the old grease on the chassis
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:09 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

stone grey mats from Luis have arrived today! Also yesterday i got a replacement front bumper and i just bought a replacement rear bumper today. Things are slowly moving but slow progress is better than no progress!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:55 am    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

Those are great, loved opening the box from Luis !

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

Mats are beautiful.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:33 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

They sure are sexy.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:19 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

early rear bumper or late 60's? Original or repro? I bought this used and am curious
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:16 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

Bumper doesn’t look to have the holes for the backup lights so it has to be pre 67.
I forget when they changed the lower rear fender from the early to later style, if that was 67 and later or not which I think they also then changed the corner pieces of the bumper?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:19 am    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

i just dont know if the rear towel bars wrap around far enough like i think they are supposed to and yes if the ends are long enough? Ill have to look at pics whn i get home from work and then try to mock it up on my Ghia. hmmmm
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:00 am    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

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i just dont know if the rear towel bars wrap around far enough like i think they are supposed to and yes if the ends are long enough? Ill have to look at pics whn i get home from work and then try to mock it up on my Ghia. hmmmm


This is my '58 when it first arrived...your towel rails would have been the same.
They weren't in great shape and the chrome shops around here didn't have a great reputation. I wanted the clean Euro style bumpers anyway so I went the SS route.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:49 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

obus wrote:
i just dont know if the rear towel bars wrap around far enough like i think they are supposed to and yes if the ends are long enough? Ill have to look at pics whn i get home from work and then try to mock it up on my Ghia. hmmmm


AFAIK the only time the bars got shorter is when they went to the 70-71 rear reflector and had to shorten the bars.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:00 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

Yes, all rear wrap around towel bars are the same size. If it is short, someone cut it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:14 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

I think i'm in the clear. Out of the 2 sets i got, 1 front and 1 rear, both are solid and i think there is one dent in one piece in the front and one dent on 1 piece on the back. I was told to send them to Paul's Chrome in PA
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:20 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

Thank you all for clarification. I'm still learning "Early Ghia 101"
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:56 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

Glad it worked out.
Learnings half the fun when it comes to a new, old car.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:55 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

c21darrel wrote:
Yes, all rear wrap around towel bars are the same size. If it is short, someone cut it.


Or its a '70 model like Neal's
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:40 am    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

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c21darrel wrote:
Yes, all rear wrap around towel bars are the same size. If it is short, someone cut it.


Or its a '70 model like Neal's
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I should have bolded the "wrap around" to be more clear.
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