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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:41 pm    Post subject: Re: New project: 63 sunroof notch Reply with quote

Thank you Bob for your comment on the nob. It looks like I need the earlier version 311827535 which is held by a small screw. I guess I might need to 3D print the part. It doesn't look lie it is available anywhere. But, who knows part do pop up. I'm picking up NOS sill trim on Friday Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:56 pm    Post subject: Re: New project: 63 sunroof notch Reply with quote

mdege wrote:
Thank you Bob for your comment on the nob. It looks like I need the earlier version 311827535 which is held by a small screw. I guess I might need to 3D print the part. It doesn't look lie it is available anywhere. But, who knows part do pop up. I'm picking up NOS sill trim on Friday Very Happy


I didn't know there was an earlier version of it, but then a lot of the early cars got a lot of one off parts. You might try asking Jason (aka Notchboy) if he has an early knob, or might know where to find one. I only mention him, as he's hoarding a bunch of early parts. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:12 pm    Post subject: Re: New project: 63 sunroof notch Reply with quote

The trunk release knob on my 63.

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I even drew it up for you in solidworks. Rolling Eyes
But forgot to show Fillet dimensions.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:41 pm    Post subject: Re: New project: 63 sunroof notch Reply with quote

@vwpieces: Thank you very much for the dimensions. That will be a nice challenge to figure out how to make it. 3D Printing is certainly the easiest way, but it looks like the original is made of aluminum or some other silver colored metal.

I'll have my son draw up a 3D model and then I'll decide how to proceed.

@Bobnotch: Ya, it is crazy how many change VW made in the first few years. Just think of it took them 5 iterations to end up with disk breaks. And not enough they even had two different calipers. That is 6 different front breaks in 12 years
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:38 pm    Post subject: Re: New project: 63 sunroof notch Reply with quote

It is hard black plastic possibly Bakelite.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:42 am    Post subject: Re: New project: 63 sunroof notch Reply with quote

mdege wrote:
@vwpieces: Thank you very much for the dimensions. That will be a nice challenge to figure out how to make it. 3D Printing is certainly the easiest way, but it looks like the original is made of aluminum or some other silver colored metal.

I'll have my son draw up a 3D model and then I'll decide how to proceed.

@Bobnotch: Ya, it is crazy how many change VW made in the first few years. Just think of it took them 5 iterations to end up with disk breaks. And not enough they even had two different calipers. That is 6 different front breaks in 12 years


Yeah, as Tram and Russ used to tell us, the type 3 got all of the experimental stuff first. Like the bigger engine size, dual carbs, dual port heads, then FI, the biggest brakes of all models (first in 5 lug, then 4 lug composite), then the 12 volt option first (police and fire), then across the model line, and things like that, plus dual circuit master cylinders, with 2 different versions of them with 68-70 then 71 on, or tie rod ends getting larger in 67, then inner front wheel bearings changing in mid 68, or IRS being introduced in mid 68 with AT, then becoming standard in 69 for most countries (swing axle stayed available thru 73 as a heavy duty option).
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:23 pm    Post subject: Re: New project: 63 sunroof notch Reply with quote

Time again for a bigger update.

I have been dealing with my doors. both of them had or have a lot of bondo. I fixed the passenger side, but the driver side is too bad for my liking, at least at the moment. I got a NOS door really cheep, it is the correct replacement door, but not a year correct one. It is what VW would have sold to me in the late 60ies. It will do for now.

I was able to pound out the worst of the dents on the passenger side. I didn't need a lot of new bondo.

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I also rebuilt the doorstops:

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On Saturday a friend of mine helped me pull the body off of the pan:

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 11:18 am    Post subject: Re: New project: 63 sunroof notch Reply with quote

Oh I have been lazy, but mostly just in updating this thread.

I have made some progress since we pulled it apart. I am getting close to finishing the welding on the driver side.

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I also finished the inner rocker and heater channel for the passenger side, first I salvaged and repaired the heater tube:

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Then I installed it in the inner rocker which I had previously made and made the inner layer of the rocker assembly:

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 12:58 pm    Post subject: Re: New project: 63 sunroof notch Reply with quote

You do nice work Michael Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 1:10 pm    Post subject: Re: New project: 63 sunroof notch Reply with quote

notchboy wrote:
You do nice work Michael Cool


Thanks Bob!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 2:24 pm    Post subject: Re: New project: 63 sunroof notch Reply with quote

mdege wrote:
notchboy wrote:
You do nice work Michael Cool


Thanks Bob!

Actually that was Jason's comment (notchboy), but I do have to agree Very nice work Michael. Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:31 pm    Post subject: Re: New project: 63 sunroof notch Reply with quote

Embarassed I am very sorry, that I getting you mixed up.

But, thank you for agreeing with Jason.

And thank you Jason!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:02 am    Post subject: Re: New project: 63 sunroof notch Reply with quote

mdege wrote:
Embarassed I am very sorry, that I getting you mixed up.

But, thank you for agreeing with Jason.

And thank you Jason!


Ja,ja Rolling Eyes Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 1:15 pm    Post subject: Re: New project: 63 sunroof notch Reply with quote

Very nice progress, keep it up! Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 7:31 am    Post subject: Re: New project: 63 sunroof notch Reply with quote

I just noticed, that I missed to show you how I fixed the front right bumper mount. I did this quite a while back, but here it is:

First I made the tools for the metal stamping:

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And then I formed the repair panel:

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fitted to the car:

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:38 am    Post subject: Re: New project: 63 sunroof notch Reply with quote

Wow!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:04 pm    Post subject: Re: New project: 63 sunroof notch Reply with quote

vwfye wrote:
Wow!


Yup, going to be just like new before too long. Cool Very Nice work.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:11 pm    Post subject: Re: New project: 63 sunroof notch Reply with quote

I am really bad a keeping this thread up.

I have been plugging away on this car and I am slowly getting the body ready.

I have replaced both rockers. I was lucky to get my hands on a good used one for the left side. And I was able to make a mirror copy of that for the right side.

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I still have two areas which are causing me a headache. The PO. replaced the rear corners including the bumper brackets. Unfortunately he did not manage to get it right, actually its way off. The parts were welded in about 1" to far forward and tilted the wrong way. But see for your self:

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Unfortunately I have nothing to go by to get it right. I would be really happy if someone could help out with some good picture of this area on an original early notchback.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 2:06 pm    Post subject: Re: New project: 63 sunroof notch Reply with quote

here is the best I have, hope it helps. This an October 61 car

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:31 am    Post subject: Re: New project: 63 sunroof notch Reply with quote

ibjack wrote:
here is the best I have, hope it helps. This an October 61 car

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Thank you ibjack. It sure does help! Any information is valuable.

October 61 sure is early for a type 3 Thumbs Up
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