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greebly Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2009 Posts: 966 Location: Here and now
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:24 am Post subject: sliding door seal |
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I decided to install the new sliding door seal I purchased over a year ago and the seal appears to be too long on one side. Anybody encounter this before? I am thinking the manufacturer screwed up and it's a seal for the type 4 eurovan which has a curve on the rear which would require a longer piece, it's a good 12 to 15 inches too long.
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greebly Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2009 Posts: 966 Location: Here and now
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:29 am Post subject: Re: sliding door seal |
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Also if I cut it to fit I was thinking to do so right at the corner jut where it starts to go vertical. Seems kind of stupid to make a contiguous/continuous seal that has to be split to install. |
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valvecovergasket Samba Member
Joined: October 10, 2018 Posts: 1491 Location: pnw
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:48 am Post subject: Re: sliding door seal |
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i would cut it at a diagonal somewhere, then glue the ends together with this stuff
https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/d/b40069430/
definitely seems like the wrong seal or manufacturer issue, but if it fits everywhere else - and has the right little flap bit at the front - i dont see anything wrong with just trimming it and carrying on.
i had to use that 3m stuff to get the front door and slider seals to stay in their spots, and was really pleased with how sturdy it gets once dry. _________________ MegaSquirt resource - SpitfireEFI.com
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dobryan Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2006 Posts: 16503 Location: Brookeville, MD
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16865 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:11 am Post subject: Re: sliding door seal |
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are you sure it's in right? it should have a rubber flap on the front edge where the striker is
i used the same seal. fit perfect _________________
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
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Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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greebly Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2009 Posts: 966 Location: Here and now
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: sliding door seal |
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skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
are you sure it's in right? it should have a rubber flap on the front edge where the striker is
i used the same seal. fit perfect |
Yep, the flap was located at the front and the 90 degree corners can only be installed in the corners. The bag it came in was sealed. I cut it just above the corner piece and used some foam sheet rolled up and inserted into the seal void to hold the two pieces together. Just a heads up to anyone else that purchases the Vewib brand that it may or may not be too long. I would bet it was meant for a T4 Eurovan though as it was exactly 18" too long on that side and the T4 has a dog leg on Back side. The front side was perfect fit. I am going to look up my reciept and notify the vendor. |
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16865 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:54 pm Post subject: Re: sliding door seal |
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wow, that's odd. like i said mine fit no problem. getting that evil poopy glue shit VW loves to use off was a different story. i've actually had really good luck with vewib stuff _________________
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
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Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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MsTaboo Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2006 Posts: 4087 Location: East Kootenay, British Columbia
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 2:52 pm Post subject: Re: sliding door seal |
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(Thread revival)
I'm in the process of refreshing the sliding door of our '90 Syncro Westy with quiet rollers, sound deadening, etc, and I also bought a new body seal.
My question is about the seal, it's a ClassicLine seal from Denmark (forget which vender I bought it from) and seems to be well formed of quality rubber.
The original seal from VW has several holes spaced around the perimeter which appear to be there to allow air to escape from inside the seal when compressed.
The new seal doesn't have any of these holes.
I'm wondering if others who have replaced their sliding door seals have noticed whether their new seal had these holes and how necessary they are?
It's kinda a goofy question, but I'm curious if it really makes a difference in how the door closes. _________________ Currently:
'90 Syncro Westy 3 knob w/Zetec
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designer Samba Member
Joined: November 05, 2009 Posts: 484 Location: Idaho-but just the tip
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:09 pm Post subject: Re: sliding door seal |
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So I got the one from gowesty and it has the holes btw.
Thought it was a bit long (maybe 6”) but just was more careful when installing to not stretch it and it fit perfectly. _________________ __________
87 Syncro Westy : 2.5l
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MsTaboo Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2006 Posts: 4087 Location: East Kootenay, British Columbia
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: sliding door seal |
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I got the seal from ClassicLine installed and ended up very carefully adding some holes. ( used a drill to make holes in the same locations as the original seal; didn't want to use a hole punch which pokes holes through both sides of the seal and would allow water into the seal.)
It does seem to make a difference in how easily the door closes. I did have to spend a bunch of effort adjusting the door because I rebuilt the hinge and replaced all the bearings with the quiet roller set.
Overall the ClassicLine seal fits perfectly, but would be nice if they included the holes. The quiet rollers are great but there's still the clunk when closing the door; no way around that, it's just the design.
On installing the seal; I started by locating the four corners and then infilling the seal between each. Didn't use any contact cement at first, just got the seal correctly installed.
Then went back and pull out each corner separately and glued, and then finished by pulling out the middle sections and glued.
This way I wasn't fumbling with a long seal and getting contact cement all over everything. _________________ Currently:
'90 Syncro Westy 3 knob w/Zetec
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VicVan Samba Member
Joined: July 01, 2015 Posts: 1840 Location: Vancouver Island, BC
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 10:35 pm Post subject: Re: sliding door seal |
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MsTaboo, thanks for the feedback.
Would you say the silent rollers are worth it? _________________ '90 Little Blue Truck, 2WD auto, FAS GenV 2.0 NA (AVH) |
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do.dah Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2015 Posts: 444 Location: Washington
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:35 am Post subject: Re: sliding door seal |
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Well, ya didn't ask me, but, I've had them installed for a few yrs, and I LOVE the silent rollers. |
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MsTaboo Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2006 Posts: 4087 Location: East Kootenay, British Columbia
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:11 pm Post subject: Re: sliding door seal |
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VicVan wrote: |
MsTaboo, thanks for the feedback.
Would you say the silent rollers are worth it? |
You're welcome.
Yes I would say the rollers are worth the effort and expense. Just don't expect the door to be completely silent. The rollers quiet the slide, but the clunk is still there.
Getting the door adjusted just right also helps, you want the door to seat tight enough to seal out water and wind, but if it's over-tight then the noise of the catch is louder.
I added some pics of the rollers to this thread:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=10017257#10017257 _________________ Currently:
'90 Syncro Westy 3 knob w/Zetec
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designer Samba Member
Joined: November 05, 2009 Posts: 484 Location: Idaho-but just the tip
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:17 pm Post subject: Re: sliding door seal |
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I put some of that special tape on y mechanisms a while back. UHWM maybe? It worked for a bit. Now it’s all wrinkled and alas, my door sounds like a 747 again.
I will take quiet roll and a thud any day over what I have going on now! _________________ __________
87 Syncro Westy : 2.5l
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VicVan Samba Member
Joined: July 01, 2015 Posts: 1840 Location: Vancouver Island, BC
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:27 pm Post subject: Re: sliding door seal |
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Adding this to the project list then! I already had "Put Fatmax on the sliding door", I figure that big piece of sheet metal must vibrate and resonate like crazy during opening and closing. _________________ '90 Little Blue Truck, 2WD auto, FAS GenV 2.0 NA (AVH) |
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