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volksworld Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2011 Posts: 2529 Location: formerly NY currently NC
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:49 am Post subject: master cylinder recall...napa,raybestos,ac delco |
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brake parts inc. has recalled master cylinders sold as napa m4840,raybestos mc391232 and ac delco 18m2578 for not being crimped together properly and the rod falling out...these masters fit 2012 -17 new beetles, 2005-2018 jettas and 07-10 gli's....the one year old one in my sons 2014 jetta just decided to lock all 4 wheels and the only way to get the car to move was to crack open both brake lines at the master...and according to its casting letter its not part of the recall(yet?) but covered under ac delco 2 yr warranty |
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TornadoRed06 Samba Member
Joined: August 30, 2020 Posts: 198 Location: Porto - Portugal
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 4:16 am Post subject: Re: master cylinder recall...napa,raybestos,ac delco |
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Fretting but... staying clear from second-rate parts!
Wondering why a 2014 car needs to swap a factory master cylinder, running a 10 year-plus one, no issues. |
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Butcher Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2015 Posts: 1285 Location: Right Here
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:48 am Post subject: Re: master cylinder recall...napa,raybestos,ac delco |
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Good information but I too steer clear from those manufacturers. |
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volksworld Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2011 Posts: 2529 Location: formerly NY currently NC
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:47 am Post subject: Re: master cylinder recall...napa,raybestos,ac delco |
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pathetically enough my son claimed the low fluid light was coming on all the time and he kept having to add fluid...no visible leaks anywhere...so i assumed the master was leaking into the booster ...so i ordered one...vw wanted $360 for theirs...ac delco is originial equipment for general motors...so theoretically i wasnt ordering a no name piece of crap... when i finally pulled the master surprise the inside of the booster was dry...but i already had it too long to return so i installed the new one anyway...some days you just cant win |
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TornadoRed06 Samba Member
Joined: August 30, 2020 Posts: 198 Location: Porto - Portugal
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: master cylinder recall...napa,raybestos,ac delco |
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volksworld wrote: |
pathetically enough my son claimed the low fluid light was coming on all the time and he kept having to add fluid...no visible leaks anywhere...so i assumed the master was leaking into the booster ...so i ordered one...vw wanted $360 for theirs...ac delco is originial equipment for general motors...so theoretically i wasnt ordering a no name piece of crap... when i finally pulled the master surprise the inside of the booster was dry...but i already had it too long to return so i installed the new one anyway...some days you just cant win |
... there's a saying here in the neck of woods (Europe) that 'merican AC Delco General Motors, Ford & Co Inc' is very cheap, hardly enduring.
Opinions! |
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Butcher Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2015 Posts: 1285 Location: Right Here
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 8:16 am Post subject: Re: master cylinder recall...napa,raybestos,ac delco |
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Many companies just rebox parts. I doubt if AC Delco is making European parts. |
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frenchroast Samba Member
Joined: October 13, 2019 Posts: 679
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:54 am Post subject: Re: master cylinder recall...napa,raybestos,ac delco |
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volksworld wrote: |
pathetically enough my son claimed the low fluid light was coming on all the time and he kept having to add fluid...no visible leaks anywhere...so i assumed the master was leaking into the booster ...so i ordered one...vw wanted $360 for theirs...ac delco is originial equipment for general motors...so theoretically i wasnt ordering a no name piece of crap... when i finally pulled the master surprise the inside of the booster was dry...but i already had it too long to return so i installed the new one anyway...some days you just cant win |
You might want to check the steel brake lines carefully anywhere they are near or in contact with any other part of the car. I had a 91 8v GTI and the steel coiled fabric wrapped preheater tube would just lightly rub one of the brake lines. The steel coil is harder than the brake line and over time rubbed it enough to open up a pinhole leak. No visible leaks but the fluid level kept dropping. After I did find it, the dealer wouldn't report it to VW as a safety issue but did kindly offer to fix it for something like $400. F that. Just got some new line, bender, and flaring tool at Napa and did it myself. |
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volksworld Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2011 Posts: 2529 Location: formerly NY currently NC
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:03 am Post subject: Re: master cylinder recall...napa,raybestos,ac delco |
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the actual problem was a left rear caliper that leaked out the shaft for the parking brake lever...guess it only did it now and then and whenever we checked it wasnt leaking and the rain washed it clean...finally it puked completely...2014 shouldnt need a master? true...and it shouldnt need a caliper either...i never saw a cast iron caliper leak there but these are aluminum....i think everything is reboxed made in china at the moment including original vw |
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volkybus Samba Member
Joined: November 03, 2013 Posts: 481 Location: CASTLETON VT USA
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 5:28 pm Post subject: Re: master cylinder recall...napa,raybestos,ac delco |
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Junk.new vws are Junk..I rented a newl Tiguan.anf had to unhook the battery every time I parked it for the whole first week, second week it was Ok
.brought it to VW to find out which fuse to pull and service dept said they needed a mechanic to look at the computer and only the services offices were open...I ended up unhooking the battery EVERY TIME I parked it Absolute Junk...All new VW's are not worth it.. transmissionsl fail. Never ever would buy a newer than 2000 VW
..I won't even rent one....Bill Pellegrino |
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Butcher Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 6:55 am Post subject: Re: master cylinder recall...napa,raybestos,ac delco |
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Not certain why you are renting a car and you having to fix it.
You can't just pull fuses to locate draws anymore. Cars have advanced to the point many have no clue how they work. It's not the manufacturer's fault for that.
If I recall, many of the old VW's were junk too. |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69829 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 11:41 am Post subject: Re: master cylinder recall...napa,raybestos,ac delco |
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I was thinking that too... I rented a car once and the battery went dead overnight.
They sent out someone to replace the battery.
Battery dead again the next morning.
I exchanged the car for another one that day.
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ps2375 Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2014 Posts: 2471 Location: Meridian,ID
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 2:18 pm Post subject: Re: master cylinder recall...napa,raybestos,ac delco |
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I just now changed the master in my 94 Golf, it was my fault for not flushing brake fluid, more often or ever. |
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