biggest tire size i can fit on a stock 4*130 rim?

[tykratz]

I was an idiot when ordering tires for my MK6 Golf. the stock size of my golf was 195/65R15. even my door jam says that size but I never looked at my tire like an idiot.

long story short I get my tires delivered and I'm looking at them I'm thinking these are way too small. sure enough my golf has 18 inch wheels. ugh.

my question is can i fit these tires on onto a stock 4*130 beetle rim.

I ordered two sets of tires:

- Hankook Winter i*Pike RS W419 195/65R15 95T XL
- OHTSU FP7000 195/65R15 91H



did I make an $800 mistake or can I make lemonade out the these lemons ?

[viiking]

There are some different rim widths depending on year model. What rim width do you have? 4.5” or larger?
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[tykratz]

[viiking]

Glutamodo wrote on another post
PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 11:04 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Report this post to Moderator/Admin.
The factory wheel and tire size changed mid-year 1972.

Before March 1972:
Wheel size : 4Jx15 40mm offset
Tire Size : 5.60x15 (155SR15 radial)

After March 1972:
Wheel size : 4½Jx15 34mm offset
Tire size : 6.00x15 (165SR)

So your rims are probably 4.5”. There are legal tire widths permissible and shops may not mount the tires for you even though you can physically get them on. I don’t think the 195’s are possible on a small rim. 185’s maybe.

Running with oversized tires can void your insurance too.
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Discharged: 1983 Vanagon, 1974 1800 Microbus,1968 Low Light,1968 Type 3

[jeffrey8164]

195’s are too wide for a 4.5” wheel.
Yes, they will fit physically the wheel but the contact patch will not be flat on the ground. Terrible handling and uneven wear.
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[Matt Wilson]

Those will fit, but you may run into steering interference issues.

I've put a 235 on a 4.5" rim...
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[Glenn]

Sport rims are 5.5, so are Porsche 914 rims.

I have Porsche/Pedrini alloys and have 195/55-15 front and 206/60-15 rear.
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[viiking]

Of course if the OP wants to buy some wider rims it will be a lot cheaper than not using the tires.
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1966 Lancia Flavia Pininfarina Coupe - in the waiting room
Discharged: 1983 Vanagon, 1974 1800 Microbus,1968 Low Light,1968 Type 3

[tykratz]

[Tvättbjörn]

[tykratz]

[ashman40]

I found this reference that basically says the max width tire you should run on 5.5" wheels is 195s.
https://www.tyresizecalculator.com/charts/tire-width-for-a-wheel-rim-size-chart

If your current wheels are 4.5" wide (most common stock width) then running 195 tires would be too wide. Have some others run them on the stock 4.5" wheels... I'm certain some have. That doesn't mean it is safe or recommended.

Pull one of your wheels and see if you can find the wheel size as shown in the pics below. Sometimes these markings are on the outside of the wheel, sometimes they are on the backside. Other times, I've not been able to find the markings.

"4 1/2J x 15" means 4.5" width; 15" diameter. The "J" code represents the shape of the wheel lip.

"ET34" = "Einpresstiefe 34mm" which literally translates as 'insertion depth' or offset. It is the measure of the offset from the wheel centerline to the mounting surface. This is another way to represent the backspacing but is measured from a different spot so there is no straight conversion between the two.

[jarmchairpilot]

Put them aside and save a few bucks so you can buy a secondhand set of 5 inch wide wheels, you can find plenty for sale on the samba and you can sell the ones you have too!
Btw wide tires on a stock bug will make the bug slower probably due to the extra friction, rolling resistance, heavier steering, tire noise, increased fuel consumption and weight most likelycompared to stock 155/165 width but hey you will have extra grip on wet roads and bends, roundabouts, emergency stops!

I would just go with a wide pair at the back and keep stock up front.

[Tvättbjörn]