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QuicksilverG4 Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2014 Posts: 86 Location: Badhoevedorp
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:17 am Post subject: Rewire 3 wire turn signal switch 1961 |
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Hey folks,
I have a 1961, snowflake taillight vw Beetle that at some point in his life, received a 3 wire turning signal switch instead of the correct 6 wire one.
The car has always had faint light in the rear, so I tried fiddling around with it (cleaning connections etc) to see if it would get better but now I screwed up I think
The issue I now have is. the licence plate light comes on when I brake... and I cant seem to get it to work properly.
My turning signals work
Brake lights work + licence plate light
taillights work
My question is, what is the correct way of getting everything working in the rear... because using the standard wiring diagram doesn't get me very far with the 3 wire turning signal switch? |
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VOLKSWAGNUT Fastest VW Belt Changer
Joined: October 14, 2007 Posts: 11056 Location: Flippin' a Belt........ .... Off-n-On ... NC USA
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:14 am Post subject: Re: rewire 3 wire turning signal swicth 1961 |
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Yes a 3 wire turn switch can be used ...but it will need a device to cancel the stop while the turn per side is activated.
6v or 12v ?
12= Easy peasy...
Connect a trailer light converter for the rear circuits.
6 or 12
Relays..
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QuicksilverG4 Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2014 Posts: 86 Location: Badhoevedorp
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 8:26 am Post subject: Re: rewire 3 wire turning signal swicth 1961 |
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Thank you!
Its still on 6v 👀
I’ll have a look to see if I can figure this out.
Buying a 6 wire turning signal switch cod be my last option. |
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mukluk Samba Member
Joined: October 18, 2012 Posts: 7028 Location: Clyde, TX
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 9:54 am Post subject: Re: rewire 3 wire turning signal swicth 1961 |
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Just because it has a three wire signal switch doesn't necessarily mean the original wiring isn't all still there, allowing you to simply reinstall a six wire switch.
For the license light issue, I would look at the wires at the T3 and T1 connectors located at the left side of the engine bay. It's possible the wires aren't all connected to the correct spots.
_________________ 1960 Ragtop w/Semaphores "Inga" |
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QuicksilverG4 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:27 am Post subject: Re: rewire 3 wire turning signal swicth 1961 |
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The wiring is still there,
But from what I read on similar topics the trailer converter is not gonna work on my 6v setup.
And I cant seem to figure out what type of relays to use as an alternative.
(Mostly because of my limited understanding of electronics 😂
The “easy” thing would be to get a 6 wire switch, since I could then use the 1961 wiring diagram as a guide. |
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mukluk Samba Member
Joined: October 18, 2012 Posts: 7028 Location: Clyde, TX
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:54 am Post subject: Re: rewire 3 wire turning signal swicth 1961 |
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If you decide to go the multiple relay route, you'll want to purchase four six volt five pin relays (example HERE), and follow the diagram shown in VOLKSWAGNUT's post HERE. _________________ 1960 Ragtop w/Semaphores "Inga" |
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QuicksilverG4 Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2014 Posts: 86 Location: Badhoevedorp
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:34 am Post subject: Re: rewire 3 wire turning signal swicth 1961 |
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Thank you sir!
I will have a look at it!
From that diagram ot definitely seems doable, even for a n00b like me 😂
Thanks again. |
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Joey Samba Member
Joined: August 12, 2005 Posts: 5366 Location: Nova Scotia - Canada
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:55 pm Post subject: Re: rewire 3 wire turning signal swicth 1961 |
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VOLKSWAGNUT wrote: |
Connect a trailer light converter for the rear |
This is what I had to do in my ‘56. _________________ Joey
‘60 Kombi - '74 Bus - '79 Panel - '65 Beetle |
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QuicksilverG4 Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2014 Posts: 86 Location: Badhoevedorp
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2021 1:25 am Post subject: Re: Rewire 3 wire turning signal swicth 1961 |
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is you 56 still on 6V?
I read in similar posts the trailer converter wouldnt work on 6V, only on 12V
If yours works on 6V could you share a link on where to buy one?
Thanks 👍. |
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Joey Samba Member
Joined: August 12, 2005 Posts: 5366 Location: Nova Scotia - Canada
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2021 1:43 am Post subject: Re: Rewire 3 wire turning signal swicth 1961 |
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Sorry, it’s 12v. _________________ Joey
‘60 Kombi - '74 Bus - '79 Panel - '65 Beetle |
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QuicksilverG4 Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2014 Posts: 86 Location: Badhoevedorp
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2021 1:47 am Post subject: Re: Rewire 3 wire turning signal swicth 1961 |
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Ah I was afraid of that |
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EVfun Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2012 Posts: 5481 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:40 am Post subject: Re: Rewire 3 wire turning signal swicth 1961 |
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We have this issue frequently with beach buggy tail lights. Here is a good thread that shows a couple of simple ways to use relays to accomplish the needed tail light brake/turn signal conversion. _________________
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QuicksilverG4 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:53 am Post subject: Re: Rewire 3 wire turn signal switch 1961 |
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Thank you!
I think I will have a go at the relay x4 option.
Doesn’t break the bank,
buying a new turning signal switch 6 wire would 😂 |
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