Wait, you have to remove the Westy table leg to use the bed?

[wagohn]

Hello,
Our 76 came with the Westy interior but missing the swing-out table leg and table in the rear. After 12 months, we finally stumbled upon a genuine Westy swing-out table leg and bracket. I made my own table-top and excitedly fitted the new leg and table. Everything worked great.
Imagine my 'horror' when we went to make the bed for the first time and realized that the table leg has to be removed to allow the bed to fully unfold -what! At first I thought maybe we had the wrong leg - but, no, it's correct. I find it somewhat stunning that the designers would be OK with that. Where are you supposed to put the table on a rainy night, in a cramped camper, with the bed down? I 100% expected the bed to 'just miss' the table leg on fold out.
Seems a very strange design but does explain the amount of buses for sale with missing legs/tables. If no workaround, I can definitely see me removing the table and leg and leaving it at home. Any fixes other than hacking away at the seat bench corner?
Thanks.
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1976 VW Transporter, 2.0 FI Engine

[vwwestyman]

Yep. Same on my '78. Also a reason I don't take the table on many camping trips, unless weather predictions make it appear that we'll want to eat inside the Bus.

You're right-- that does seem like an odd oversight by the Germans.
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Dave Cook

President, Wild Westerner Club

1978 Champagne Edition Westy, repowered to '97 Jetta TDI
1973 Wild Westerner
My Thing

[wagohn]

[vwwestyman]

It is nice to have from time to time. Like if camping and it might be rainy or is cold. Or working from home and your wife is also working from home and you have a small space and you can't have her overhear things because you're a therapist working over Zoom... Ha ha

But, yes, you do have to be somewhat creative on moving things around if it's rainy and the Bus is full. Sometimes I'll stash it under the Bus to get it out of the way.
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Dave Cook

President, Wild Westerner Club

1978 Champagne Edition Westy, repowered to '97 Jetta TDI
1973 Wild Westerner
My Thing

[WildIdea]

77 Westy here. For some reason, my bed fully lowers with the leg in place but it puts a bit of stress on it that I don't like. Back pressure on my seat mounts and a pressure on the kitchen block.

Someone here had a table leg adapter that slid into the jack point mount that I thought was neat as the table outside is an appealing option. Not sure if it is an after market production piece or a one off but Id like that piece at some point.
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1977 Sage Green Westy
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=691987
1965 SWR Walk-Through Standard
1960 211 Panel American Camper Conversion

[Xevin]

[vwwestyman]

I have an outside-the-Bus table leg set up. For some reason, I seem to believe it was a prototype. I would have bought it from someone on the old Buskatiers listserve in the early 2000s. I've used it a few times in the Bus, and also adapted it to work in a boat we had. It's kind of neat to have.
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Dave Cook

President, Wild Westerner Club

1978 Champagne Edition Westy, repowered to '97 Jetta TDI
1973 Wild Westerner
My Thing

[wagohn]

My expectations were heightened because we had a 1982 Vanagon with a similar swing table. I dont recall removing the table to make the bed in that camper. Though that was some 30 yrs ago.
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1976 VW Transporter, 2.0 FI Engine

[vwwestyman]

Yes, I think the Germans realized and corrected the one design flaw in the Late Bay Westy layout when they designed the Vanagon Westys.
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Dave Cook

President, Wild Westerner Club

1978 Champagne Edition Westy, repowered to '97 Jetta TDI
1973 Wild Westerner
My Thing

[obieoberstar]

my '79 has the same table. it's a big table, even without using the leaf.

even when you are not folding out the bed, it is always in the way. constantly having to move it to get into the icebox, sit in the back seat, access storage locker, side closet, etc.

it, however, really ties the room together.

[Xevin]

Yes!! EZ Gruv. It’s the coolest thing going for that stupid table.

[Globespotter]

I moved the mount and leg to the front - behind the passenger seat so it can be used when the seat is turned, plus swing outside, and now the bed can go down without removing it.

To be honest though, I still find it to be more of a pain than I think it's worth. I may end up removing it completely.
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1971 Super Beetle - May 2012 - Current
1979 Westfalia - 1986-1991
1971 Super Beetle - 1977-1980

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[Jetfxr69]

Put a late model table setup in Crusher (76), even though it will have the early model westy interior and the flip up table against the wall. Can never have enough table space when camping, (or living in, as my daughter will be doing).

This was just the mock up. The floor is now repaired.
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[Globespotter]

^^ Yes, that is where I moved mine to, but kept the original height so I could use it when the passenger seat rotates. Problem is that it's a bit high when swung outside and in the way. I have a small folding table I use outside so honestly I don't find this set up all that great.
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1977 Westfalia - October 2015 - Current
1971 Super Beetle - May 2012 - Current
1979 Westfalia - 1986-1991
1971 Super Beetle - 1977-1980

1971 SB Survivor Story: https://globespotter.com/
Road Trip Thread: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=511800&highlight=
My 77 Westy Thread: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=647114&highlight=

http://vw-mplate.com/mcode.php?lang=EN&id=30990
https://vw-type2-id.xyz/mplate/72067382

[busdaddy]

[vwwestyman]

How about that! I was thinking of this yesterday after commenting on the thread.
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Dave Cook

President, Wild Westerner Club

1978 Champagne Edition Westy, repowered to '97 Jetta TDI
1973 Wild Westerner
My Thing

[wagohn]

[obieoberstar]

brilliant idea!

[otiswesty]

I use the OG table and have a outside table as well.
I stash the big table in the driver seat area at night.
The outside table is mounted on my homemade jump seat.

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1978 Sage Green P22 Westfalia
1989 T3 Syncro Single cab

Just a regular guy

[sodbuster]

Damn German engineers! They all think tables are for sitting at and beds are for laying down in! what a bunch of idiots! Go figure.