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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:45 am    Post subject: 2X epoxy primer - cleaning gun with? Reply with quote

what do you use to clean up your gun after using Nason 491-10 2X epoxy?
paint thinner?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:47 am    Post subject: Re: 2X epoxy primer - cleaning gun with? Reply with quote

From the technical data sheet
CLEANING OF PAINT EQUIPMENT
Use Axalta® 105™ Gun Cleaner, Axalta® 107™ Low VOC Gun & Equipment Cleaning Solvent, or any other equipment cleaner as permitted by local regulations.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:31 am    Post subject: Re: 2X epoxy primer - cleaning gun with? Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:22 am    Post subject: Re: 2X epoxy primer - cleaning gun with? Reply with quote

Lacquer thinner, reducer, or a paint gun cleaner should work.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:03 pm    Post subject: Re: 2X epoxy primer - cleaning gun with? Reply with quote

Axalta® 107™ Gun Cleaner, Axalta from their MSDS is ~90% acetone!

Axalta® 105™ Gun Cleaner, Axalta from their MSDS is ~50-75% methanol with some acetone, toluene and benzene. Methanol is nasty stuff, so you are better looking at the first one.

Straight acetone should get you close.

Hopefully you haven't already sprayed it and are waiting on these thinning instructions. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:21 pm    Post subject: Re: 2X epoxy primer - cleaning gun with? Reply with quote

laquer thinner has always served me well
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:58 am    Post subject: Re: 2X epoxy primer - cleaning gun with? Reply with quote

NAES wrote:
lacquer thinner has always served me well


x2 not to be confused with paint thinner. You can use reducer but that is rather expensive. Acetone is too volatile. IMO
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:01 am    Post subject: Re: 2X epoxy primer - cleaning gun with? Reply with quote

I use lacquer thinner or acetone. Usually acetone because it's cheaper.

A lot of times I also have a can of pressurized carb or brake cleaner spray to give parts a final "rinse off" after they have been brushed clean.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:04 pm    Post subject: Re: 2X epoxy primer - cleaning gun with? Reply with quote

I see there is Virgin Lacquer thinner at the auto paint shops, and lacquer thinner at Home Depot.

Any difference?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:23 pm    Post subject: Re: 2X epoxy primer - cleaning gun with? Reply with quote

Learn to look up the MSDS for each product.

By law they are required to provide the details of all hazardous ingredients. Sometimes proprietary information can be withheld but generally they are there.

The MSDS is name specific so you have to use that. I don't know the exact name you have but one I Googled

https://msdsdigital.com/100-virgin-lacquer-thinner-msds

Shows in Section 3
39-42% Methanol
31-33% Toluene
13-16% Acetone
9-11% Solvent 210

The reference to CAS (Chemical Abstract Service) further gives a number you can look up which gives some chemical formulae but more importantly what the common name for the item is.

For example Solvent 210 68410-97-9 is Distillates (petroleum), light distillate hydrotreating process, low-boiling

Google that and ask for synonyms and you will usually find out some common products it is used in.

Sounds complicated but in 5 minutes of research you can find out a lot of information.

I assessed thousands of MSDS as part of my job for many years and know that a lot of high priced products are just common chemicals. It is also important that you know what the hell you are breathing and absorbing through your skin.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:07 pm    Post subject: Re: 2X epoxy primer - cleaning gun with? Reply with quote

2Dokas wrote:
I see there is Virgin Lacquer thinner at the auto paint shops, and lacquer thinner at Home Depot.

Any difference?

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Pretty sure the virgin lacquer thinner is little higher quality or better refined and so it preferable for thinning paint. I haven't been able to get the good stuff for many years here. The laquer thinner in Cali is mostly acetone now... For cleaning a gun and supplies just get the cheaper one. It will work well.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:52 pm    Post subject: Re: 2X epoxy primer - cleaning gun with? Reply with quote

I also use a lacquer thinner. Got it from Home Depot.
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