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4Gears4Tires Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2018 Posts: 3026 Location: MD
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:36 am Post subject: Re: Keep an eye on your catalytic converter |
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CanStan wrote: |
I did have a scrapper tell me the Vanagon cat wasn't worth anything more than regular steel. |
Exactly.
They have a hit list of what is wanted. A Vanagon is not on that list. _________________ '87 Syncro
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SCM Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2011 Posts: 3115 Location: Bozeman MT
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: Keep an eye on your catalytic converter |
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coqcitywesty wrote: |
That the thief was willing to travel to some remote parking lot on a remote mountainside and crawl around in the snow to get at it demonstrates the level of desperation some will go to. |
I don't think it's desperate at all. It's smart because there's way less chance of being caught.
I don't know of any cat thefts where I live but I worry about theft in general whenever I'm camping. My typical weekend consists of driving to some primitive camp spot then leaving to hike/bike for the day. Anyone can break into my van in seconds. _________________ '91 Westfalia GL Automatic (GTA "Turbo" Rebuild w/Peloquin) and 2.3L GoWesty Engine |
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syncrodoka Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12005 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:57 pm Post subject: Re: Keep an eye on your catalytic converter |
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There is quite a bit less media in the vanagon cats, probably more worth the effort to focus on other makes/models.
I have heard a few prius driving by with open exhaust due to cat theft. |
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SCM Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2011 Posts: 3115 Location: Bozeman MT
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:03 pm Post subject: Re: Keep an eye on your catalytic converter |
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syncrodoka wrote: |
There is quite a bit less media in the vanagon cats, probably more worth the effort to focus on other makes/models.
I have heard a few prius driving by with open exhaust due to cat theft. |
"Hearing a Prius" is kind off an oxymoron. _________________ '91 Westfalia GL Automatic (GTA "Turbo" Rebuild w/Peloquin) and 2.3L GoWesty Engine |
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hans j Samba Member
Joined: May 06, 2006 Posts: 2714 Location: Salt Lake City UT
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:34 pm Post subject: Re: Keep an eye on your catalytic converter |
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Vanagon cats are worth $20 to scrappers. They have bigger fish to fry. _________________ 1986 Canadian Syncro Westy TDI - 1989 Syncro Single Cab - 2001 Audi S4 - 1981 VW Caddy ABA - 1980 VW Caddy EV - 1973 VW T-181 |
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travelteam Samba Member
Joined: July 08, 2012 Posts: 50 Location: Long Beach, CA
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 1:37 pm Post subject: Re: Keep an eye on your catalytic converter |
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Went to start mine up today after not driving for a couple weeks. We have a big camp trip scheduled to leave early tomorrow morning. The catalytic converter was cut out. 🤬🤬🤬 Yep, I’m told it’s worth about $20 in recycling. They cut the O2 sensor wire as well. |
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campism Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2007 Posts: 4491 Location: Richmond VA
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:26 pm Post subject: Re: Keep an eye on your catalytic converter |
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CanStan wrote: |
An easy target is all they need, so although I haven't heard of any Vanagons being hit, I wouldn't be surprised if it happened. |
They tried to get mine at our old place. They did succeed in getting the one from the Honda Pilot next door and when I checked mine I found Sawzall tracks but the converter was still there. I did have to have that slice welded up.
_________________ '87 Westy in Wolfram Grey Metallic |
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derekdrew Samba Member
Joined: October 14, 2007 Posts: 246 Location: Far Northwest CT
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4Gears4Tires Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2018 Posts: 3026 Location: MD
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 7:33 pm Post subject: Re: Keep an eye on your catalytic converter |
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campism wrote: |
CanStan wrote: |
An easy target is all they need, so although I haven't heard of any Vanagons being hit, I wouldn't be surprised if it happened. |
They tried to get mine at our old place. They did succeed in getting the one from the Honda Pilot next door and when I checked mine I found Sawzall tracks but the converter was still there. I did have to have that slice welded up.
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So obviously the scenario exists that they were scared away while cutting out the cat. However, I prefer to believe in the far more hilarious scenario that they were cutting the cat out and then decided, "Nah, this POS isn't worth a second cut. Let's get out of here." _________________ '87 Syncro
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22641 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:44 am Post subject: Re: Keep an eye on your catalytic converter |
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Pipe is easy to cut. When they got to the flange side, it isn’t so easy, so they bailed. _________________ .ssS! |
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the joker Samba Member
Joined: October 12, 2006 Posts: 1287
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 5:09 am Post subject: Re: Keep an eye on your catalytic converter |
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If I catch one of these #uckers doing this to my westy they would be missing some important fingers that sawall is amazing at cutting flesh to. |
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danfromsyr Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2004 Posts: 15144 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 6:13 am Post subject: Re: Keep an eye on your catalytic converter |
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and you'll spend more time in jail and bail than the offending criminal.
not to mention legal fee$$$$ _________________
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These are the reasons we have words like “wanker” |
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Alan Brase Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2004 Posts: 4532 Location: Cedar Falls, Iowa
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:37 am Post subject: Re: Keep an eye on your catalytic converter |
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danfromsyr wrote: |
and you'll spend more time in jail and bail than the offending criminal.
not to mention legal fee$$$$ |
I feel this pain a lot. But realize you cant physically injurse someone to retaliate against a theft.
It's been a cat and mouse game much of my life. Seems the bad guys/thiefs are always meth users.
They've been trying to steal non ferrous metal car parts, copper house plumbing, copper house wire most of my life.
Pretty much least competent criminals, tho.
One guy broke into my little shop and took the crankcase to my brother's 1967 911. Numbers matching.
I put out t reward of $200 and made special effort to show the newspaper print ad to the yokel that I thought did it. Sure enough, he found it. got his $200.
Then bragged up his good fortune to some buddies. Who I also gave a reward to. And got the perp 5 years for 2nd offense. And got restitution. While I was out at the metal salvage place looking for more of my parts, I also bought a perfect early split case VW tranny By the pound, I think about $20.
Scrap yard owner says he realizes half the stuff is stolen. Great business model, huh? _________________ Al Brase
Projects: 67 sunroof bug, 67 Porsche 912 Targa, 70 Westy
Dec 1955 Single Cab pickup WANT 15" BUS RIMS dated 8/55, thru 12/55
To New owners: 1969 doublecab, 1971 Dormobile
Vanagons:
80 P27 Westy JUL 1979, 3rd oldest known US
83 1.6TD Vanagon, 87 Wolfie Westy daily driver, swap meet home |
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12115 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 8:05 am Post subject: Re: Keep an eye on your catalytic converter |
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We live in a really low crime neighborhood of dense residential housing, and yet we've had two cat thefts from Gen2 Prius within a block of us. One happened literally right in front of our house. I ended up replacing that cat and installing a shield. It was a precision heist that must've only taken a minute at most.
The shield rivets in place, so it probably is your best defense against all but the most determined thieves. _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
y u rune klassik? |
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Xevin Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2014 Posts: 7624
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 8:45 am Post subject: Re: Keep an eye on your catalytic converter |
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Zeitgeist 13 wrote: |
We live in a really low crime neighborhood of dense residential housing, and yet we've had two cat thefts from Gen2 Prius within a block of us. One happened literally right in front of our house. I ended up replacing that cat and installing a shield. It was a precision heist that must've only taken a minute at most.
The shield rivets in place, so it probably is your best defense against all but the most determined thieves. |
Just before we sold our Condo in Lacey (2 miles from Zeigeist) last month they took a couple cats from our neighborhood. The neighborhood bulletin didn’t specify type of cars.
Last week in my work parking lot my co worker had his ripped off his 05 Prius. During business hours and parked right in front of the business albeit 50 yards away. They even took time to cut a 2x4 to chock the tires. The poor kid just bought the car a week earlier and had planned on getting at Cat Cage installed. If you could see my parking lot you’d realize how bold these thieves are. Just crazy. _________________ Keep on Busin'
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GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
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Damn that Xevin... |
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I respect Xevin and he's a turd |
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My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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the joker Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Keep an eye on your catalytic converter |
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Hence why they need to "fall" on the sawsall during there attempted escape, and injure or kill themselves
on the same vain as, the child raper, that falls down the stairs and breaks his neck, at the one level police station, no need for an expensive trial now, just a cheap body bag. |
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Xevin Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2014 Posts: 7624
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:06 am Post subject: Re: Keep an eye on your catalytic converter |
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It’s actually sad. I think I’m more pissed at the people who buy the metal knowing it’s been stolen, creating a market for this sort of thing. _________________ Keep on Busin'
67rustavenger wrote: |
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
Clatter wrote: |
Damn that Xevin... |
skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
I respect Xevin and he's a turd |
SGKent wrote: |
My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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Xevin Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:14 am Post subject: Re: Keep an eye on your catalytic converter |
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This is a big issue in many countries. Geez. _________________ Keep on Busin'
67rustavenger wrote: |
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
Clatter wrote: |
Damn that Xevin... |
skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
I respect Xevin and he's a turd |
SGKent wrote: |
My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12115 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:55 am Post subject: Re: Keep an eye on your catalytic converter |
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As maddeningly annoying as this kind of thing is, I don't think it warrants the death penalty. All things in perspective. _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
y u rune klassik? |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22641 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:22 pm Post subject: Re: Keep an eye on your catalytic converter |
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It’s rare that I have wished a car jack to fail on someone before.
Interesting, the first clip asserts these cats head to China due to new strict regulations there. . _________________ .ssS! |
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