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pablovent
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 Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 12:54 am Post subject: cool tins in a type3 |
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Hi Guys;
These cool tins (picture) work well in a type3 squareback stock engine? ... are they compatible with the stock fan, oil cooler??...all engine tins fit correctly ??
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| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:02 am Post subject: Re: cool tins in a type3 |
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Those ARE Type 3 tins.
Calling them "Cool Tins" is just a marketing gimmick.
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gt1953
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| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:06 am Post subject: Re: cool tins in a type3 |
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Those are for type three for sure. I would not use them on a type one upright engine.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 8:46 am Post subject: Re: cool tins in a type3 |
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| To be correct these were added to the type 3 in 1970, not sure if they were other changes to the cooling system at the same time or if they should be used on all type 3 motors. |
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pablovent
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| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: cool tins in a type3 |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:14 pm Post subject: Re: cool tins in a type3 |
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Keep in mind you might have to wire them up in place due to manufacturing differences (some fit better than others).
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| Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:34 pm Post subject: Re: cool tins in a type3 |
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Also keep in mind that the other tins may or may not fit with the cool tins.
If you look on page 4 on my 73 build you can see where I had to do some trimming near the #3 cylinder for it to fit tight. |
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pablovent
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| Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 5:32 am Post subject: Re: cool tins in a type3 |
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| QRP wrote: |
Also keep in mind that the other tins may or may not fit with the cool tins.
If you look on page 4 on my 73 build you can see where I had to do some trimming near the #3 cylinder for it to fit tight. |
Yes, I will take a look your pictures, really nice info!!...Thanks |
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pablovent
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:17 am Post subject: Re: cool tins in a type3 |
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| QRP wrote: |
Also keep in mind that the other tins may or may not fit with the cool tins.
If you look on page 4 on my 73 build you can see where I had to do some trimming near the #3 cylinder for it to fit tight. |
Indeed both lower left and right cans collide with the new cool tins cans, I am modifying them to avoid problems, I don't know if these lower cans are type3 stock or type1....But not fit correctly....even the small front type3 cans collide too, but it's not a very noticeable issue, apparently my type3 cans kit used the small square cool tins under the barrels...
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pablovent
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| Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:34 am Post subject: Re: cool tins in a type3 |
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| We have used them on Type 1s for years. Our way of thinking is that the cooling air would be more consistent, since it makes this air "wrap around" the cylinders, thus having more cooling surface area. Never did scientific testing, but we have never had issues with over heating. |
A contribution from South America, the entire Brazilian kombis production line from 1984 to 1989 equipped with a 1600cc type1 (doghouse style) engine incorporating type3 cool tins from the factory, apparently with very good results!! |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:17 pm Post subject: Re: cool tins in a type3 |
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| We have used them on Type 1s for years. Our way of thinking is that the cooling air would be more consistent, since it makes this air "wrap around" the cylinders, thus having more cooling surface area. Never did scientific testing, but we have never had issues with over heating. |
A contribution from South America, the entire Brazilian kombis production line from 1984 to 1989 equipped with a 1600cc type1 (doghouse style) engine incorporating type3 cool tins from the factory, apparently with very good results!! |
Did they come with a sled tins specifically for the cool tins??
I have yet to find any that fit cool tins without modifications.
A pic would be great. |
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pablovent
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| Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:33 am Post subject: Re: cool tins in a type3 |
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Thats the point, a few years ago i rebuild at least four Kombi Brazil type1 engines and I not see the big detail  .... but I dont remember any problems with the stock sled tins asembly, must be different for sure!....in a few weeks i will try to take a picture or at leats find the explanation for that!
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pablovent
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 10:07 am Post subject: Re: cool tins in a type3 |
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| pablovent wrote: |
| Multi69s wrote: |
| We have used them on Type 1s for years. Our way of thinking is that the cooling air would be more consistent, since it makes this air "wrap around" the cylinders, thus having more cooling surface area. Never did scientific testing, but we have never had issues with over heating. |
A contribution from South America, the entire Brazilian kombis production line from 1984 to 1989 equipped with a 1600cc type1 (doghouse style) engine incorporating type3 cool tins from the factory, apparently with very good results!! |
Did they come with a sled tins specifically for the cool tins??
I have yet to find any that fit cool tins without modifications.
A pic would be great. |
Hi QRP, in a few more days I will publish the "type1 sled tins" picture (Kombi brasil up to 90īs) that use from the factory production type3 cool tins!!...My best |
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 1:04 pm Post subject: Re: cool tins in a type3 |
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| Multi69s wrote: |
| We have used them on Type 1s for years. Our way of thinking is that the cooling air would be more consistent, since it makes this air "wrap around" the cylinders, thus having more cooling surface area. Never did scientific testing, but we have never had issues with over heating. |
Read the last line.
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pablovent
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: cool tins in a type3 |
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| Glenn wrote: |
| Multi69s wrote: |
| We have used them on Type 1s for years. Our way of thinking is that the cooling air would be more consistent, since it makes this air "wrap around" the cylinders, thus having more cooling surface area. Never did scientific testing, but we have never had issues with over heating. |
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Surprise Glenn!!.......The entire production line of Vw Kombi Brazil type1 1600cc manufactured from the mid-80's to the early 90's were implemented with doghouse (steel cooler) and type3 cooling tin, vehicles designed for tropical heat , these kombis worked for years in cargo transport companies inside the cities...
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Glenn
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 1:50 pm Post subject: Re: cool tins in a type3 |
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Yes, Brazil did a lot of odd things not sanctioned by the Fatherland.
Still, Type 3 tins belong on Type 3s and Type 1 tins belong on Type 1s.
Lucky this is a Type 3 forum so you're good.
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pablovent
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 2:16 pm Post subject: Re: cool tins in a type3 |
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| Glenn wrote: |
Yes, Brazil did a lot of odd things not sanctioned by the Fatherland.
Still, Type 3 tins belong on Type 3s and Type 1 tins belong on Type 1s.
Lucky this is a Type 3 forum so you're good. |
It is very likely!, your information is very good!.......... VW Brazil also incorporate IRS/rhino case (transmission 1:5,143), Bosch electronic ignition, solex H30/31 pict carburetor, 35.5x30 cylinder heads, however they worked very well for years under extreme heat...there are also differences in the cylinders and heads (3/4" plugs).
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Glenn
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: cool tins in a type3 |
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All I can say is do whatever has worked for you since you'll be the one dealing with it.
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pablovent
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 2:32 pm Post subject: Re: cool tins in a type3 |
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| Glenn wrote: |
| All I can say is do whatever has worked for you since you'll be the one dealing with it. |
I'm just sharing information that can be used for better analysis, ......it seems that type3 cooling tins have been a pretty good deal!.... Don't you think so?
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