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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:15 am    Post subject: options for 10 pin headlight switch replacement? Reply with quote

my 1991 has the 10 pin headlight switch which is NLA. it is having issues, and if cleaning does not resolve, a replacement will be needed.

what options exist to replace the 10 pin switch? hacking the wiring and changing to the 8 pin would bypass something needed in the 10 pin switch i would assume, correct?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:51 am    Post subject: Re: options for 10 pin headlight switch replacement? Reply with quote

You can use the more common earlier headlight switch in your late van but you should add an inline fuse to a wire by the switch.
Coming out of the switch wiring socket is a small Gray/Blue wire from pin 58b.
I would put an ATM fuse holder and 5 amp fuse there in that wire.

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my 1991 has the 10 pin headlight switch which is NLA. it is having issues, and if cleaning does not resolve, a replacement will be needed.

what options exist to replace the 10 pin switch? hacking the wiring and changing to the 8 pin would bypass something needed in the 10 pin switch i would assume, correct?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:05 pm    Post subject: Re: options for 10 pin headlight switch replacement? Reply with quote

The T suffix 10pin switch is readily available, I have 2 on hand. If you revert back to a M suffix you will need the connector housing as the pin configurations are not interchangeable.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:38 am    Post subject: Re: options for 10 pin headlight switch replacement? Reply with quote

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The T suffix 10pin switch is readily available, I have 2 on hand. If you revert back to a M suffix you will need the connector housing as the pin configurations are not interchangeable.


none of the US Vanagon specific vendors have them in stock, several claim they are NLA.

do you have an OEM part?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:51 am    Post subject: Re: options for 10 pin headlight switch replacement? Reply with quote

I've got an 86 harness, I could cut off the headlight plug if you need it.

Let me know.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:23 am    Post subject: Re: options for 10 pin headlight switch replacement? Reply with quote

The ones I have on hand are OE VW switches. The T switches are available.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:35 am    Post subject: Re: options for 10 pin headlight switch replacement? Reply with quote

dgbeatty wrote:
The ones I have on hand are OE VW switches. The T switches are available.


available from where?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:20 pm    Post subject: Re: options for 10 pin headlight switch replacement? Reply with quote

dabaron Google https://tinyurl.com/yg2h7h9u I stopped cpunting at 10 vendors. Even GoWesty aka "sold out" has them.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:58 pm    Post subject: Re: options for 10 pin headlight switch replacement? Reply with quote

dgbeatty wrote:
Even GoWesty aka "sold out" has them.


GoWesty:

"Part #: 251-941-531M
VW Part #: 251941531M
Works With: 1980-1990
Weight: 0.20 lbs

There are two different headlight switches for Vanagon:

Early: # 251-941-531M (1980-1990)
Late: # 251-941-531T (1989-1991)

From the front they look and function identically. However, they are slightly but significantly different on the back. The early style switch has only 8 pins, while the late style switch has 10 pins.

The 10 pin option is no longer available from VW and we are only offering the early style, 8 pin switch. "
https://www.gowesty.com/product/switches/3609/headlight-switch-
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: options for 10 pin headlight switch replacement? Reply with quote

Brickwerks.co.uk
Headlamp Switch - T3 / Late
Genuine VW headlamp switch, as fitted to very late (1990 on) T3 models.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
OUR PART NUMBER 251941531T
VW PART NO 251 941 531 T
MANUFACTURER VW

£31.33 (Inc VAT)

ADD TO CART
In stock

What else can I say. $60 shipped
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:24 pm    Post subject: Re: options for 10 pin headlight switch replacement? Reply with quote

Does it come with a scone? I say you take that chopped one from Jersey Dave.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:38 pm    Post subject: Re: options for 10 pin headlight switch replacement? Reply with quote

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Brickwerks.co.uk
Headlamp Switch - T3 / Late
Genuine VW headlamp switch, as fitted to very late (1990 on) T3 models.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
OUR PART NUMBER 251941531T
VW PART NO 251 941 531 T
MANUFACTURER VW

£31.33 (Inc VAT)

ADD TO CART
In stock

What else can I say. $60 shipped


brickwerx webshop is closed.

gowesty does not have them.

like i said, i looked before i asked, this isn't Facebook.

the option of using the 8 pin i already own is honestly the long term viable option. Dave... put it in the box.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:29 pm    Post subject: Re: options for 10 pin headlight switch replacement? Reply with quote

You want 1 right? I have 2 for sale. What problem am I not seeing?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:17 am    Post subject: Re: options for 10 pin headlight switch replacement? Reply with quote

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You want 1 right? I have 2 for sale. What problem am I not seeing?


To me, I feel that you weren't very clear that you were willing to sell one.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 8:36 am    Post subject: Re: options for 10 pin headlight switch replacement? Reply with quote

I relooked at vendors and contacted a couple. I found 2 in the US and 6 in Europe that have them in stock. If you do decide to revert back to an 'L" (8 pin) switch I would like to buy your 10 pin connector housing.

On a somewhat related note I am looking for a 11 pin connector housing, they were used with the 323941531J and 251941531S switches.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:24 pm    Post subject: Re: options for 10 pin headlight switch replacement? Reply with quote

dgbeatty wrote:
I relooked at vendors and contacted a couple. I found 2 in the US and 6 in Europe that have them in stock. If you do decide to revert back to an 'L" (8 pin) switch I would like to buy your 10 pin connector housing.

On a somewhat related note I am looking for a 11 pin connector housing, they were used with the 323941531J and 251941531S switches.

Thanks


which US vendors have them? i could not find any that were in stock. as for Europe, the shipping is the price of the item, i understand that, but would rather not have that CO2 footprint added to my already bad Vanagon life.

it was not even remotely clear you were selling. no PM, no price, nothing.

the best solution is to eliminate a hard to find part and go for the one that is easily sourced.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:23 pm    Post subject: Re: options for 10 pin headlight switch replacement? Reply with quote

Vanagain in Jersey yo. I was looking today. Worry about next time next time.



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which US vendors have them? i could not find any that were in stock. as for Europe, the shipping is the price of the item, i understand that, but would rather not have that CO2 footprint added to my already bad Vanagon life.

it was not even remotely clear you were selling. no PM, no price, nothing.

the best solution is to eliminate a hard to find part and go for the one that is easily sourced.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:20 am    Post subject: Re: options for 10 pin headlight switch replacement? Reply with quote

Jennybenny wrote:
Vanagain in Jersey yo. I was looking today. Worry about next time next time.



doh, i thought i checked there and came up with nothing... thank you.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:29 am    Post subject: Re: options for 10 pin headlight switch replacement? Reply with quote

dabaron wrote:
Jennybenny wrote:
Vanagain in Jersey yo. I was looking today. Worry about next time next time.



doh, i thought i checked there and came up with nothing... thank you.


Give Ken a call. Searching for parts on a website often leaves me frustrated but when I call Ken is is right on top of it.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:15 pm    Post subject: Re: options for 10 pin headlight switch replacement? Reply with quote

This is an old thread but an unresolved problem. I have a ‘91 with a mostly fried 10-pin headlight switch. The 10-pin switch’s are truly NLA now and seems any old stock is completely dried up.

Can I use an 8-pin switch in place of my 10-pin and if so what modifications do I need to make for it to be fully functional and safe?

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