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xzener Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2006 Posts: 1777
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 2:07 pm Post subject: Bullet Blinkers |
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Hello everyone,
Searched the forum and couldn't find what I was looking for. I have a 68 KG, but the PO welded on 70 fenders on this thing. I'd like to install the bullet style turn signals but am needing a couple measurements. Here is a diagram. Basically I just need the measurements from the edge of the headlight (no chrome ring please) to the center of the middle and top holes. Figured I could figure out the rest.
Thanks in advance! _________________ My 70 beetle was totaled Now to build the Ghia I always wanted. Rest in peace Ruby, I will miss you. Hello <insert Ghia name here>! |
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Rome Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2004 Posts: 9641 Location: Pearl River, NY
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: Bullet Blinkers |
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My '64 Cabrio with the "mid-year" bullet blinkers like yours is in the garage and assembled. I measured in the wheelwell from the underside of the headlight bucket. The top hole is 1 5/8" down; the center of the large hole is 2 3/4" down from the bucket.
If another person has a '64 1/2 Ghia that has the blinkers off so that he can measure the bare holes from the outside of the fender, his measurements would be slightly more accurate than mine. |
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xzener Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2006 Posts: 1777
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: Bullet Blinkers |
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Thanks Rome... Yeah, was hoping to get measurements from the front. _________________ My 70 beetle was totaled Now to build the Ghia I always wanted. Rest in peace Ruby, I will miss you. Hello <insert Ghia name here>! |
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sputnick60 Samba Moderator
Joined: July 22, 2007 Posts: 3916 Location: In Molinya Orbit
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xzener Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2006 Posts: 1777
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:38 pm Post subject: Re: Bullet Blinkers |
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The PO welded up the square blinker openings on the fenders.
_________________ My 70 beetle was totaled Now to build the Ghia I always wanted. Rest in peace Ruby, I will miss you. Hello <insert Ghia name here>! |
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xzener Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2006 Posts: 1777
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:03 pm Post subject: Re: Bullet Blinkers |
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Although not the measurement I was hoping for, this may just do the trick...
djkeev wrote: |
Ok, didn't take off the light but....
1969, I'm 3rd owner, I KNOW it is 100% original, unmolested.
I Removed the headlamp trim ring and it measures 1 1/8" from the center of the bezel screw hole to the TOP of the chrome bullet housing where it meets the rubber seal. This was an easy to measure exact dimension.
Hope this makes sense and helps you.
Dave |
_________________ My 70 beetle was totaled Now to build the Ghia I always wanted. Rest in peace Ruby, I will miss you. Hello <insert Ghia name here>! |
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Era Vulgaris Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2012 Posts: 1677 Location: Raleigh, NC
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:41 am Post subject: Re: Bullet Blinkers |
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xzener wrote: |
Hello everyone,
Searched the forum and couldn't find what I was looking for. I have a 68 KG, but the PO welded on 70 fenders on this thing. I'd like to install the bullet style turn signals but am needing a couple measurements. Here is a diagram. Basically I just need the measurements from the edge of the headlight (no chrome ring please) to the center of the middle and top holes. Figured I could figure out the rest.
Thanks in advance! |
Were you ever able to get measurements for this? The only rust on my front fenders was behind the two turn signal seals. It's almost like these seals do a better job trapping water, because my 64 donor car had the same problem. Neither side was in good enough shape to get clear centers of any of the holes. I've welded in a patch, and now I need to re-drill these holes and am looking for the measurements. If anyone can fill in the measurements on xzener's photo I would be massively thankful! _________________ Currently own:
66 Karmann Ghia, L390 Gulf Blue, under construction, here: www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=760505&highlight=
99 Mazda MX-5 10AE, Sapphire Blue Mica, 6 speed, LSD
Previously owned:
98 Porsche Boxster, silver, 2.5L -- 67 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1500sp -- 98 BMW Z3, Atlanta Blue Metallic, 2.8L I6 -- 75 Porsche 914, Laguna Blue, 2270cc -- 72 Porsche 914, Signal Orange, 1.7 FI -- 74 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1600dp -- 74 Triumph TR6 with O.D., sapphire blue |
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runamoc Samba Member
Joined: June 19, 2006 Posts: 5600 Location: 37.5N 77.1W
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:04 am Post subject: Re: Bullet Blinkers |
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I just measured between the bottom of the headlight ring and the top of the bumper and put the 'wire hole' in the middle between the two. To get a 'center line' I used some string with a nut and hung it down from the top of the headlight long enough to 'transfer' the line to fender.
_________________ Daily driver: '69 Baja owned 44 yrs - Plan B: '81 Rabbit Diesel LS Deluxe - Plan C: '72 Ghia
Yard Art: 2 Sandrails
Outback: '69 Ghia - '68,'69,'70,'72 Beetle - '84 Scirocco, GTI - Pair of '02 Golfs-
VW Wiring = It's just wires |
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Era Vulgaris Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2012 Posts: 1677 Location: Raleigh, NC
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:10 pm Post subject: Re: Bullet Blinkers |
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runamoc wrote: |
I just measured between the bottom of the headlight ring and the top of the bumper and put the 'wire hole' in the middle between the two. To get a 'center line' I used some string with a nut and hung it down from the top of the headlight long enough to 'transfer' the line to fender.
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I appreciate it, but unfortunately my car is completely disassembled, in etching primer, and I don't have any bumpers at the moment to test fit. Ideally I'd like to drill these holes before it gets painted.
Anyone with a disassembled car able to take measurements?
_________________ Currently own:
66 Karmann Ghia, L390 Gulf Blue, under construction, here: www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=760505&highlight=
99 Mazda MX-5 10AE, Sapphire Blue Mica, 6 speed, LSD
Previously owned:
98 Porsche Boxster, silver, 2.5L -- 67 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1500sp -- 98 BMW Z3, Atlanta Blue Metallic, 2.8L I6 -- 75 Porsche 914, Laguna Blue, 2270cc -- 72 Porsche 914, Signal Orange, 1.7 FI -- 74 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1600dp -- 74 Triumph TR6 with O.D., sapphire blue |
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: Bullet Blinkers |
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You're in luck, sort of. My '68 Ghia just came back from the paint booth last week. I measured using a Bates metal ruler (cork backed) on the METRIC side as it made most sense. I tucked the end of the ruler under the painted, welded to the fender headlight mounting ring to hold the curve. Ready?
The upper mounting hole is 47mm O.C. measured down from the mentioned H/L retaining ring. Hole diameter for both mounts is approx. 6mm.
The spread between the two mounting holes is 72mm. O.C.
The middle hole for the wires, despite common thought, is not centered. It is approx. 42mm On Center below the upper mounting hole- thus it is correct if closer to the bottom mounting hole. It is an approx. 20mm in diameter.
Again, my car is in fresh SS paint so I may be slightly off in hole diameters- but it sure looks right when painted. _________________
EverettB wrote: |
I wonder what the nut looks like.
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'62 L390 151, '62 L469 117, '63 L380 113, '64 L87 311, '65 L512 265, '65 L31 SO-42, '66 L360 251, '68 L30k 141, '71 L12 113, '74 ORG 181
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Era Vulgaris Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2012 Posts: 1677 Location: Raleigh, NC
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:58 am Post subject: Re: Bullet Blinkers |
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hitest wrote: |
You're in luck, sort of. My '68 Ghia just came back from the paint booth last week. I measured using a Bates metal ruler (cork backed) on the METRIC side as it made most sense. I tucked the end of the ruler under the painted, welded to the fender headlight mounting ring to hold the curve. Ready?
The upper mounting hole is 47mm O.C. measured down from the mentioned H/L retaining ring. Hole diameter for both mounts is approx. 6mm.
The spread between the two mounting holes is 72mm. O.C.
The middle hole for the wires, despite common thought, is not centered. It is approx. 42mm On Center below the upper mounting hole- thus it is correct if closer to the bottom mounting hole. It is an approx. 20mm in diameter.
Again, my car is in fresh SS paint so I may be slightly off in hole diameters- but it sure looks right when painted. |
Excellent, thank you! _________________ Currently own:
66 Karmann Ghia, L390 Gulf Blue, under construction, here: www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=760505&highlight=
99 Mazda MX-5 10AE, Sapphire Blue Mica, 6 speed, LSD
Previously owned:
98 Porsche Boxster, silver, 2.5L -- 67 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1500sp -- 98 BMW Z3, Atlanta Blue Metallic, 2.8L I6 -- 75 Porsche 914, Laguna Blue, 2270cc -- 72 Porsche 914, Signal Orange, 1.7 FI -- 74 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1600dp -- 74 Triumph TR6 with O.D., sapphire blue |
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John Ghia Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2004 Posts: 281
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:36 am Post subject: Re: Bullet Blinkers |
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1965 Vert _________________ BUS BOYZ |
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Era Vulgaris Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2012 Posts: 1677 Location: Raleigh, NC
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: Bullet Blinkers |
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John Ghia wrote: |
1965 Vert |
Yes, perfect!!! Thank you!!! _________________ Currently own:
66 Karmann Ghia, L390 Gulf Blue, under construction, here: www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=760505&highlight=
99 Mazda MX-5 10AE, Sapphire Blue Mica, 6 speed, LSD
Previously owned:
98 Porsche Boxster, silver, 2.5L -- 67 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1500sp -- 98 BMW Z3, Atlanta Blue Metallic, 2.8L I6 -- 75 Porsche 914, Laguna Blue, 2270cc -- 72 Porsche 914, Signal Orange, 1.7 FI -- 74 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1600dp -- 74 Triumph TR6 with O.D., sapphire blue |
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Era Vulgaris Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2012 Posts: 1677 Location: Raleigh, NC
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:42 pm Post subject: Re: Bullet Blinkers |
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So based on hitest's and John Ghia's info, I think this should be just about right, give or take a mm.
_________________ Currently own:
66 Karmann Ghia, L390 Gulf Blue, under construction, here: www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=760505&highlight=
99 Mazda MX-5 10AE, Sapphire Blue Mica, 6 speed, LSD
Previously owned:
98 Porsche Boxster, silver, 2.5L -- 67 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1500sp -- 98 BMW Z3, Atlanta Blue Metallic, 2.8L I6 -- 75 Porsche 914, Laguna Blue, 2270cc -- 72 Porsche 914, Signal Orange, 1.7 FI -- 74 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1600dp -- 74 Triumph TR6 with O.D., sapphire blue |
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: Bullet Blinkers |
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Right on sir! _________________
EverettB wrote: |
I wonder what the nut looks like.
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'62 L390 151, '62 L469 117, '63 L380 113, '64 L87 311, '65 L512 265, '65 L31 SO-42, '66 L360 251, '68 L30k 141, '71 L12 113, '74 ORG 181
FU#5 |
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