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kd69bug Samba Member
Joined: December 24, 2019 Posts: 109 Location: Pennsylvania
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:18 am Post subject: Lights on & off with engine running? |
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Curious if anyone has rewired so that when the engine is running, headlights and taillights are on, and shut off when car is turned off. Seems like it should be fairly easy, but...? |
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runamoc Samba Member
Joined: June 19, 2006 Posts: 5601 Location: 37.5N 77.1W
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:33 am Post subject: Re: Lights on & off with engine running? |
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already done....search the forums about the X wire and associated circuits _________________ Daily driver: '69 Baja owned 44 yrs - Plan B: '81 Rabbit Diesel LS Deluxe - Plan C: '72 Ghia
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Outback: '69 Ghia - '68,'69,'70,'72 Beetle - '84 Scirocco, GTI - Pair of '02 Golfs-
VW Wiring = It's just wires |
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ashman40 Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2007 Posts: 15985 Location: North Florida, USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: Lights on & off with engine running? |
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runamoc is correct. VW added the "X" circuit to the ignition switch in the '71 model year. Same year the first SB came out.
The X circuit is the black/yellow wire coming out of the ignition switch electrical unit. In '71 it went directly to the newer style headlight switch. From '71-onward the headlight switch had two completely separate subsystems. The parking lights and illumination lights were powered from the #30 red constant 12v wire. This allowed the parking lights to work even when the ignition switch was OFF. The headlights were a completely separate circuit thru the headlight switch. It was powered by the "X" terminal and output from the switch went to the headlight dimmer relay which selected whether the hi or low beams were powered.
The X circuit is ONLY powered when the ignition key is in the ON/RUN position. So when the key is turned OFF the headlights are powered down even when the headlight switch is fully ON (parking lights will remain ON since they are not powered by the X circuit).
Unlike the black #15 ignition switched circuit the X circuit is NOT powered when the key is in the START position. This is the primary reason for the X circuit... to conserve current draw from the battery while starting the engine. When the starter is engaged and drawing huge current load from the battery, anything powered by the X circuit (non-critical subsystems that do not need to be powered when cranking the engine) are shut OFF, thus freeing up additional current for the starter and ignition coil.
From '72-onward the X circuit coming out of the ignition switch was wired directly to the #10 fuse in the fuse box. In these later years the #10 fuse was a standalone fuse for non-critical systems. Wipers and blower fan were powered by fuse #10. The headlights were still powered by the X circuit but instead of being directly powered by the ignition switch the headlights were connected to the INPUT side of the #10 fuse, so the headlight switch was powered by the fuse box but not protected by the #10 fuse. _________________ AshMan40
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kd69bug Samba Member
Joined: December 24, 2019 Posts: 109 Location: Pennsylvania
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:34 am Post subject: Re: Lights on & off with engine running? |
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Great info! Thank you. |
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