1600 Engine will not fit in Standard Tranny

[vs-works]

I am trying to install a standard 1600 engine into standard 1974 tranny. But it will not fully go into the bell housing of the tranny. You can see how much of a gap there is. I have place a pics of the gap, my trans housing and my pressure plate. From the attempts of me fitting it, metal has shaved off:

[rcooled]

It looks from your photos that the engine isn't going straight into the trans. The back (crank pulley end) looks to be tilted downward. You need the splined hole in the clutch plate to line up with the input shaft on the trans. If those two can't engage properly, the motor won't go in.
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[Cusser]

You do have the correct pressure plate for your throwout beating, good.

I'd pull that accelerator cable forward out of the fan shroud tube and push it through that after the engine is seated, that's how I ALWAYS did that.
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[vs-works]

[mukluk]

Agreed, the engine isn't going in straight, and with the gap shown I'd say there's a good chance the clutch splines aren't lining up with the trans input shaft. Rotating the crank pulley a bit is sometimes needed to align the splines. Hopefully a clutch alignment tool was used during reassembly if you had the pressure plate off.
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[vs-works]

[Cusser]

I've installed well over 100 VW engines. You need to lift/push forward on the fan shroud/cuss !!!

All at the same time.

You also posted in the incorrect forum, so makes me wonder.....
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[Glenn]

[Cusser]

[vs-works]

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While I agree you need to have the input shaft lined up, maybe check the length of stud protruding through the nuts on the rear mounts. I had a rhino mount tighten an abnormal amount of thread of the mount through the nut into the bell housing and the flywheel was actually hitting it. Maybe brush paint the forward face of the flywheel, and it will transfer the paint to the studs if they are hitting.

[Busstom]

[gt1953]

With out proper alignment of the clutch disc and pressure plate that engine will never go in.
I battled one for hours and then the VW guy showed up with a transmission input shaft and aligned the clutch disc and pressure plate. The engine slipped in like a well lubed XXX.
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[Cusser]

[ashman40]

Is this engine + flywheel the same as previously mounted to the transmission? What I mean is... could that be a 6v 180mm transmission and you are trying to fit a 12v 200mm flywheel into the bellhousing? A 200mm flywheel can be made to fit into a 6v transmission, but some material must be ground out from the inside of the bellhousing. Also, the 6v starter must be replaced with a 12v and the proper 6v to 12v starter adapter bushing installed.

If you have a 200mm bellhousing then double check that your clutch is properly centered under the pressure plate. A clutch alignment tool helps with this.
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[Cusser]

[Busstom]

Yep, that ^^^ (what Ashman said) was the first thing that popped into my mind, cuz I been there. But the OP said "74 standard" tranny, so we ASSumed that he's CERTAIN that it's a '74 tranny, but knowing the whacky VW configurations that flourished over the decades, I suppose there could've been a tranny in existence, produced in 73-74, that could be conceived as "standard," that was actually designed around the smaller 6V flywheel, that could be causing him this grief.

[Busstom]

Damn Cuss, you tree'd me while I was typing!

[Cusser]

[Busstom]

I think it's Internet jargon for "beat me to the punch," or "got the jump on me." Maybe it came from the "tree" of red, yellow and green lights used in drag racing.