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xcoldgrimjimx Samba Member
Joined: November 18, 2011 Posts: 254 Location: CA
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: Lowering a Bay FAQ |
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cooper363 wrote: |
xcoldgrimjimx wrote: |
I could probably machine you up a pair Like a sleeve type thing it would fit over the e break aluminum part and slide into the baking plate . I have a mazak lathe and a Bridgeport Manuel mill should be able to make them in about 3 days out of t6 aluminum.... and to everyone else WHY IS THIS THREAD SO DEAD!? geez wiz! Let’s see some slammed rides!!! I thought with all this stimulus money going around and everyone having some extra time on their hands I thought I would see a lot more bad ass bay’s coming out the lowering kitchen !!!! ps I now it’s really expensive to lower a bay the right way so I know that probably has a lot to do with it ... family , food , water & a roof over head comes first ! But can we see some inspirational pics!? ....please??? |
I use this thread for info, I have spent so much time reading but never posted anything so here is my 68 Deluxe, no tubs, no air ride
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NICE MAN !! Give us some rim and tire specks when you can please _________________ ya it's rusty...but it's MINE!!!!! |
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cooper363 Samba Member
Joined: July 23, 2018 Posts: 10 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:03 am Post subject: Re: Lowering a Bay FAQ |
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Stock 14's with 165/55 up front and 185/60 in the rear.
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CalLookVdub Samba Member
Joined: May 03, 2005 Posts: 451 Location: SE PA
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:01 pm Post subject: Re: Lowering a Bay FAQ |
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after much deliberation I finally decided to make up some spacers between the backing plate and the cable sheathing/conduit. I cut off the old end, cut it down and drilled out the center as low as i could go to make room for the end to fit in. Ended up with about a 3/4" spacing. I thought I had more pics of the spacer but I guess not. I also slotted the spacer to be able to slide the cable in. Not really necessary if you were to put the spacer in before installing the cable up to the front. I ended up having to lengthen the cable as well. I found some cable clamps at the local hardware store and so far it all seems to work out fine!
I also found another trick to getting the wheel back on a lowered bus!
_________________ My Rides
'58 beetle - L335 Capri Blue
'63 15 window Deluxe
'67 Squareback
'68 Sunroof beetle - 1st bug, bought back
'70 Bay window deluxe
'71 Bay window
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Dogo Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2009 Posts: 252 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 6:27 am Post subject: Re: Lowering a Bay FAQ |
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Looking for pics of front tire(s) on a 4.5 or 5” x 15 rim. Open to anything but would like to get a visual with pics. Also maybe your thoughts on load rating on what your rolling. TIA |
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Kiwi1966 Samba Member
Joined: August 18, 2009 Posts: 168 Location: Ohoka New Zealand
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:15 am Post subject: Fitting adjusters |
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Morning
Currently prepping a spare beam for my 69 bay which I am wanting to lower by 40 mm for adjusters and I am can remember seeing a post which I cant find where they fitted the top tube adjuster to the front of the beam (180 out) rather then to the original postion at the back thus avoiding fouling up with the gear change tube.This would mean redrilling the location dimples either on the cente of the torsion leaves or the two outer trailing arm leave dimples on the oppisite sides, anyone done this or any thoughts please |
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68 Bay Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2008 Posts: 189 Location: FRESH coast!!!!
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2021 12:43 pm Post subject: Re: Lowering a Bay FAQ |
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keeping it simple narrowed airbeam, flipped spindles, tubbed 3 inch on 17s BRMs seeeeeeeeeeeeeesh
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panel Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2001 Posts: 1091 Location: Victoria B.C. Canada
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ratlookvw Samba Member
Joined: June 21, 2004 Posts: 1809 Location: midnight train to GA
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: Lowering a Bay FAQ |
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Anyone running deep 6 inch 901 Fuchs in the rear of a 68-70 bay? I have 4.5 inch plates but still not enough space between my tire sidewall and the wheel well. I have 944 brakes in the rear. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. _________________ If the RV Hut is a rockin, don't come a knockn'
57 Panel, 66 highroof panel, 65 Notch, 59 Vert, 61 Vert, 1969 Fridolin, 'Reggie ' 66 RV, 65 Pipe Truck, 65 RHD T-34, 70 dbl slider panel, 1969 Deep sea green sunroof automatic square, the greypoop-on, and a shit load of wheels! |
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sgmalt46 Samba Member
Joined: April 20, 2005 Posts: 1296 Location: south san francisco
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 4:00 pm Post subject: Re: Lowering a Bay FAQ |
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put on 2.5 dropped spindles pulled 4 bars on front. 3.25 drop plates.
what is the trick to get the rear wheels on and off. ? I had to flatten
the tire and left the drum off even then it was tight. too lazy to go
though all 200+ pages . is there a trick ? thanks
Steve.
_________________ 55 deluxe 23 window bus
64 crew cab
55 rag top beetle
66 beetle
71 square back (sold) ! good luck with it Henry!
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panel Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2001 Posts: 1091 Location: Victoria B.C. Canada
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cdennisg Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20278 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:13 pm Post subject: Re: Lowering a Bay FAQ |
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panel wrote: |
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pulled 4 bars on front. |
Yikes.... |
My thought, too.
sgmalt46, if you promise to put those leaves back in the front beam, we'll tell you how to install your rear tires. Pulling leaves is dangerous and shitty. Don't do that. _________________ nothing |
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bonzai272 Samba Member
Joined: January 20, 2006 Posts: 237 Location: NorCal (East Bay)
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: Lowering a Bay FAQ |
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Hey all. I'm working on installing a 4" narrowed adjustable beam in my 72 bus but the beam I got did not have a bracket for the brake servo. I now have a bracket and was planning to weld it to the beam but it appears the steering arm will make contact with the servo when turning right.
Anyone run into this matter before and have any insight? _________________ 1955 Beetle |
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Ebo Samba Member
Joined: June 20, 2006 Posts: 4 Location: Hannover/Germany
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:25 am Post subject: Re: Lowering a Bay FAQ |
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Hey folks,
I already wrote about this topic approx 2 years ago. But I still see recommendations to cut-off the bump-stops (front beam with adjusters).
In my eyes this doesnˋt make sense at all (for both, with or without dropped-spindles). Because right after passing the (possible cut of bump-stop) the ball joint will be at the end. In my eyes the engineers back then did a great job in exactly figuring out where the latest block (metal on metal if the rubber on the bump stop is missing) should be just right before the ball joints will be at the end of their possible travel. So for me in ANY CASE it would be the best to keep the bump-stop-arms without rubber as an emergency stop to protect the ball joints. Cutting them won`t give any more way/travel/depth.
Any comments or opinions on this? Am i wrong?
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In the meanwhile i did some further test by my own. I „cleared“ the bumps-stops a bit, so that the beam could go some milimeters lower. This is enough to bottom out the ball-joints.
So my conclusion is: Removing the bump-stop-arms won`t give you any more travel. If the beam hits the bumpstop (metal on metal, not rubber!) it is just some milimeters before the ball-joint-travel is at an end.
So far my thoughts.
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slimesub5 Samba Member
Joined: December 13, 2005 Posts: 64 Location: Essex UK
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:59 am Post subject: Re: Lowering a Bay FAQ |
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sgmalt46 wrote: |
what is the trick to get the rear wheels on and off. ? I had to flatten
the tire and left the drum off even then it was tight. too lazy to go
though all 200+ pages . is there a trick ? thanks
Steve.
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BYeaton Samba Member
Joined: November 27, 2007 Posts: 362 Location: El Segundo
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:31 am Post subject: Re: Lowering a Bay FAQ |
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slimesub5 wrote: |
sgmalt46 wrote: |
what is the trick to get the rear wheels on and off. ? I had to flatten
the tire and left the drum off even then it was tight. too lazy to go
though all 200+ pages . is there a trick ? thanks
Steve.
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When you get to a certain point and have a certain wheel/ tire combo you definitely have to deflate the tire. On my bus, I also notched the bottom of the spring plates to assure they were traveling down as far as possible to give the most clearance to take the wheel off. But I still have to deflate my tire. The price you pay for being low. With my 17’s I don’t have to deflate at all. Here’s a an older oic I found.
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Flozwo Samba Member
Joined: March 30, 2022 Posts: 1 Location: Germany Osnabrück
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 4:56 am Post subject: Re: Lowering a Bay FAQ |
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Hello!
After study all 233 pages to learn everything about lowering my Bay.
Here the result... I´m so in love with my bus. Many thanks to all for the informations that i got in this topic.
Front:
4 inch narrowed/adjustable front beam and drop spindles
165/50-15
6 x 15 ET52.3
Adapters 20mm
Back:
One outerspline
Adjustable Springplates
195/65-15
6 x 15 ET52.3
Adapters 25mm
Thanks to Siggis Aircooled Parts
Many greetz from Germany Osnabrück...
Florian |
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Sash_Bay Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2022 Posts: 47 Location: Stillwater, MN
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: Lowering a Bay FAQ |
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16 years ago this thread started. Its a thread I read every letter of when I was getting into Bays. I love going back and reading the first 10-20 pages. The down right anger that was politely displayed is comical. I love when they say "it's a fad" or "it dangerous". Well, per the usual...want drives innovation. Happy trails ya'll. Hope the sparks fly and the wheel bearing whine!!! |
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busmania Samba Member
Joined: October 13, 2006 Posts: 1934 Location: Here
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: Lowering a Bay FAQ |
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I was a hater forever (maybe not in this thread but I’m sure I hated on lowered buses somewhere on thesamba). Then I got tired of the same ol same ol and decided to lower a bus (in this thread towards the last few pages). I may never own a stock height bus again. Love my lowered bus and it may be time to go lower. Drives just like every stock bus I’ve owned (40+) with the occasional bottom out but so what! Cruises at 85 on highway no problem. One handed driving in the wind.
Question on going lower. I currently have the 4” slambay special. Running 15” wheels. It’s nice but Ive always wanted to run 17” Wheels. If I lower the front more and tub it for 17’s, what needs to be done in the back? Not sure I’m ready for engine and tranny raises but maybe I’m open to it. Looking to change my bus up!
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vwbrian83 Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2010 Posts: 34 Location: new jersey
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:03 am Post subject: Re: Lowering a Bay FAQ |
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Some pics of my 68 on 17s with 3" tubs. Wagenswest slam bay special. 3.5" dropped spindles- 1" beam raise. Rear horseshoe plates and adjustable torsion plates- notched frame for axles
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busmania Samba Member
Joined: October 13, 2006 Posts: 1934 Location: Here
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 8:26 am Post subject: Re: Lowering a Bay FAQ |
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Nice. Thanks for the information. Does anyone sell pre made tubs?
And, does anyone make adjustable rear spring plates for bay buses? I know wagenswest does but they always seem to be unavailable. |
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