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BFB Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:20 pm Post subject: 914 5spd strength? |
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how strong is a 914 5 spd compared to vw transaxles? bout equivalent to a type1 or better? _________________ Forced induction can overcome a lot of obsticles that gets in it's way
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2021 7:49 pm Post subject: Re: 914 5spd strength? |
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i think basically the same. i have no personalexperiance, but i did a little reading on pelican parts forum. i think 1st gear is weak on them? or is that the 912/911 relative? _________________ -'85 c10 5.3 LS, 222 cam, long tubes, x pipe, 3 inch spin tech's
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nextgen Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2004 Posts: 6008 Location: CONGERS, N.Y.
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:09 pm Post subject: Re: 914 5spd strength? |
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I had 914's, miss mine !
I found the tranny to be a work in progress. If I remember correctly it had a Side Shifter and a tail shifter. The tranny case and gears were the same but the shifter was different.
The shifter mushy, not a good click in click out.
First gear was like a bug, 5 gear needed flat roads and high speeds to enjoy..
If I throw 5 th at 60 I felt a large power loss, like 5 th was made for higher speeds. Well the car could do 127 easy.
That said the tranny was strong
You think a Bug has an easy engine to remove, ha. Being mid engine the tranny comes out with the engine, no pulling, lift the car up and they drop together.
Easiest engine I ever removed.
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DeathBySnuSnu Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:14 pm Post subject: Re: 914 5spd strength? |
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The 901 trans came stock in cars up to around 180hp.
First gear is cantilevered on the end of the shafts like a berg 5 fifth is.
This makes first brakeable. Not a good trans for drag racing.
Except for not being able to side step the clutch in first it is said it will handle around 350hp.
Of course it is torque that breaks things. So it is more common to use the 901 with a V6 instead of a V8.
I did have an friend with a 901 and a twin turbo LS V8.....but he did not use first .....and did not have enough traction to break things.
I am currently building a car with a 901 and a 2.5L V6. A low torque, high rpm engine around 200hp. _________________
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BFB Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:43 am Post subject: Re: 914 5spd strength? |
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well my plan would be to use the 5spd wirh reduction boxes modified to be on irs arms. ( more for an offroad application ). so it would still be rear engine and with a 30% gear reduction 1st and 5th's usability would just depend on my tire size i recon...
im really just kicking the idea around anyhow. its eithe this or just go with a 5 rib that i have for simplicity sake _________________ Forced induction can overcome a lot of obsticles that gets in it's way
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Joined: February 25, 2009 Posts: 3987 Location: Antioch, California, a block from the hood
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DeathBySnuSnu Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:12 am Post subject: Re: 914 5spd strength? |
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Lingwendil wrote: |
Are the 914 trans easy to adapt to a rear vs mid engine rotation? Can you simply flip the meaty bits side to side like a swing trans? |
Yes it can be "flipped" but not as easy.
Actually the 914 trans in flipped and you would have to un-flip it.
Then you would need the nose shift mech from an early,911/912 trans. Only the earlier ones had the 901 model trans. _________________
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nextgen Samba Member
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jbbugs Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:11 am Post subject: Re: 914 5spd strength? |
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I'm running this conversion kit in my 73' Road Race car.
https://www.bugat5speed.de/en/beetle-co/transmissions/conversion-parts-porsche-transmission-901-914
It's a very well made kit. The only problem I had is that the shifter snapped off during a race. We had to rig our own shifter back together at the track to get back into the race. I don't do Hole shots at all. Just Endurance racing with a lot of shifting. The 914 trans is pretty tough considering I have 3-5 different drivers in the car.
One downfall is that the parts are pricey$$ if you need to replace things.
If it says Porsche-You're going to pay$$.
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