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GeoBrewer71 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:04 pm Post subject: Why no exact color matches for repro Beetle Interiors? |
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I'm just curious if anyone knows why exact color matches do not exist for original VW interiors.
If I'm wrong about this, then please let me know. I've been trying to find reproduction (or original!) door panels for my 1965 Bahama Blue beetle in two-tone Iris Blue and Windsor Blue, but they do not exist as far as I can tell.
I guess it's possible the names are copyrighted and they go by a different color name, or very slightly different RGB mix? I've checked many of the vendors that are commonly mentioned in the forums, but haven't found anything even remotely close to that original color combination.
Whichever company finally decides to put out panels and cloth in original colors is going to find themselves overwhelmed with business.
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67 Florida Deluxe Samba Purist
Joined: June 21, 2005 Posts: 7987 Location: Gainesville and Tampa, Florida
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67 Florida Deluxe Samba Purist
Joined: June 21, 2005 Posts: 7987 Location: Gainesville and Tampa, Florida
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Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:37 pm Post subject: Re: Why no exact color matches for repro Beetle Interiors? |
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BTW, that door panel is in very good shape compared to most. It can be cleaned up and re-glued. I re-glued the rear panels in one of my cars. I heated the vinyl to make it more pliable, then re-glued the edges and tabs that fold under the back side. I had a bunch of binder clips that I padded with cardboard to clip along the edges until the gorilla glue set up. _________________ -Kent (BaT "daleallen")
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GeoBrewer71 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:49 pm Post subject: Re: Why no exact color matches for repro Beetle Interiors? |
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That is my plan. I have this panel, plus the two rear panels. One of the rear panels is significantly torn but the other one is in decent shape (1 tear, photo below).
Can this sort of tear be repaired?
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67 Florida Deluxe Samba Purist
Joined: June 21, 2005 Posts: 7987 Location: Gainesville and Tampa, Florida
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Jos.Hall Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2011 Posts: 336 Location: Sunny So Cal.
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Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:38 pm Post subject: Re: Why no exact color matches for repro Beetle Interiors? |
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GeoBrewer71 wrote: |
That is my plan. I have this panel, plus the two rear panels. One of the rear panels is significantly torn but the other one is in decent shape (1 tear, photo below).
Can this sort of tear be repaired?
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Have you ever seen someone repair a piece of artwork? Usually when the canvas is torn they use a piece of cloth on the backside to mend the tear. If it were me, I'd approach it similarly to this...
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Fast+Fix+Repair+a+Tear+in+Stretched+Canvas/98086
I have original door panels in my car as well and if need be I'll be mending them like this as opposed to buying replacements. Its not a matter of cost, it's a matter of originality. The replacements look nice but they just aren't right and if they're not gonna be right, then why not go full custom. _________________ PM ME TO ADD YOUR '67 TO THE '67 BUG REGISTRY!!!!
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Jos.Hall Samba Member
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Sharp64 Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2015 Posts: 5305 Location: Central Florida
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Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:44 pm Post subject: Re: Why no exact color matches for repro Beetle Interiors? |
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Wonder if a patch for an inner tube or pool toy would work? _________________ 1960 Indigo Blue Ragtop (Blue Barry)
1967 Ghia
1985 Westy Money Pit
“...some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.” - Michael Caine |
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Jos.Hall Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:52 pm Post subject: Re: Why no exact color matches for repro Beetle Interiors? |
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Sharp64 wrote: |
Wonder if a patch for an inner tube or pool toy would work? |
The only problem with a patch like that is the thickness. Over time, you'll begin to see the shape of the patch pop right out of the vinyl. It really takes something thin but strong. _________________ PM ME TO ADD YOUR '67 TO THE '67 BUG REGISTRY!!!!
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'67 L41 Vert 157343589
'67 L19K Vert 157452166
'67 L19K Vert ??????
'67 L282 Vert 157419653
'67 L620 Sedan 117534350 (Sold)
'67 L54 Vert 15745800 (Parted out)
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AircooledVintage Samba Member
Joined: June 07, 2006 Posts: 12
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:55 am Post subject: Re: Why no exact color matches for repro Beetle Interiors? |
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Have you checked West Coast Classics http://www.classicvws.com/menu3.htm ?
I havent ordered from them personally, and they are a bit pricey but thats to be expected for handcrafted items.
I was told they are the only source of the one year only 1964 seat cover material in the corded pattern. Im far from the interior phase for my 64 but would love to have the original brown corded seats! |
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vdubmyk Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:26 am Post subject: Re: Why no exact color matches for repro Beetle Interiors? |
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Since the tear is so low on the panel, I'd do as others say and use a thin backing of some sort. The tear is low enough that the seat bottom will cover it, you just don't want it to tear more. _________________ 64 stock bug, 12V (converted 6v unit), 40 hp, all documents even sales contract and dealer window sticker! |
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Sharp64 Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2015 Posts: 5305 Location: Central Florida
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:17 pm Post subject: Re: Why no exact color matches for repro Beetle Interiors? |
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AircooledVintage wrote: |
Have you checked West Coast Classics http://www.classicvws.com/menu3.htm ?
I havent ordered from them personally, and they are a bit pricey but thats to be expected for handcrafted items.
I was told they are the only source of the one year only 1964 seat cover material in the corded pattern. Im far from the interior phase for my 64 but would love to have the original brown corded seats! |
I think Lenny gets the material from Himmel service in Germany. Not sure they have the cord patterns though. _________________ 1960 Indigo Blue Ragtop (Blue Barry)
1967 Ghia
1985 Westy Money Pit
“...some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.” - Michael Caine |
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Squozen Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: Why no exact color matches for repro Beetle Interiors? |
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I just contacted JBugs and sent them pics of my original interior - which looks like the same as yours - to see if they want to work to create a new interior choice that matches the original. You're right: they will be overwhelmed if they actually do.
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Sharp64 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:37 pm Post subject: Re: Why no exact color matches for repro Beetle Interiors? |
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Squozen wrote: |
I just contacted JBugs and sent them pics of my original interior - which looks like the same as yours - to see if they want to work to create a new interior choice that matches the original. You're right: they will be overwhelmed if they actually do. |
JBugs doesn’t make anything. They sell TMI and Empi interior products and neither produces the fabric I don’t believe. _________________ 1960 Indigo Blue Ragtop (Blue Barry)
1967 Ghia
1985 Westy Money Pit
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Erik G Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:55 pm Post subject: Re: Why no exact color matches for repro Beetle Interiors? |
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Sharp64 wrote: |
Squozen wrote: |
I just contacted JBugs and sent them pics of my original interior - which looks like the same as yours - to see if they want to work to create a new interior choice that matches the original. You're right: they will be overwhelmed if they actually do. |
JBugs doesn’t make anything. They sell TMI and Empi interior products and neither produces the fabric I don’t believe. |
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Michael Ambrozik Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:11 pm Post subject: Re: Why no exact color matches for repro Beetle Interiors? |
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try calling sewfine they may help. |
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Sharp64 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: Why no exact color matches for repro Beetle Interiors? |
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Michael Ambrozik wrote: |
try calling sewfine they may help. |
They don’t make the material either. All the shops simply buy what’s available through their material suppliers. Until someone steps up and dumps a fat stack of cash into getting a fabric producer to run a bunch of it or they find some NOS stock it’s not happening. _________________ 1960 Indigo Blue Ragtop (Blue Barry)
1967 Ghia
1985 Westy Money Pit
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69734 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:20 pm Post subject: Re: Why no exact color matches for repro Beetle Interiors? |
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It won't be blue but the Bus salt & pepper material is pretty similar to that pattern if you can't find anything at all.
Of course you would need to buy it in bulk and replace just the salt & pepper areas of the seat or get complete new covers sewn up. $$$$
Bus seats:
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Busstom Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:34 pm Post subject: Re: Why no exact color matches for repro Beetle Interiors? |
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The body on that thing looks rock solid, like, never been crunched. You need to post that in the '65 Registry. |
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matthew henricks Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:27 am Post subject: Re: Why no exact color matches for repro Beetle Interiors? |
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I had the same issue with my 64. No-one makes the grey cord material.
There are companies out there who will make that material for you. Then you have to have the seat covers sewn. Not for the feint of heart though. Big $$$
If you want info PM me.
Below top is OG. Bottom is repro in wrong color but we have that worked out.
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Parts i am looking for:
64 Cardboard glove box
64 bug nice used front/rear Black RHD floor mat. |
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