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MI-Bug
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:38 am    Post subject: Re: Not another Class 11 (style)... Reply with quote

First off... looking good Sidehill!

As for skid plates, my favorite ones are how AZ-BUG did his originally. This thread has a couple of good pics of both the front and rear:

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=629767&highlight=class+11

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:44 am    Post subject: Re: Not another Class 11 (style)... Reply with quote

In my thread about an offroad bug, you can see front and rear skid plate ideas.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=664627
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Not another Class 11 (style)... Reply with quote

Thanks for all the ideas on skid plates. I don't think I'll need one on the front since I will be running slow on mountain trails instead of racing. My rig is not a Class 11, just a raised bug.. I have watched the Class 11 races on youtube and can see why they would need a front skid plate.

I do need one on the rear however. I have good clearance even with the thin-line 1.5 qt sump, but it won't survive even a slight kiss of a rock while the front beam would.

I like joemamas technique for bending plate. I do a lot of stuff like that.
I've got anvils, big vises and hammers, and have been to blacksmith school so can flog iron with the best of them. I'll probably use aluminum over steel tube for the rear skidplate though.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Not another Class 11 (style)... Reply with quote

The 1st Baja I owned, bought it shortly after I turned 18, which is the minimum age to own a car in California, was a '65 Bug, still stock when I bought it from the original owner. It had a big ding in the bottom of the spare tire well and in the front of the beam from a time that the PO was at Big Bear in the snow. He hit a hidden large rock at the edge of a parking lot at a business in town.

My son's Jetta got the oil pan broken hitting a driveway that was steep. (He'll NEVER let that friend borrow anything again!)

Skid plates are NOT just for racing. Nor even just for going fast.

And a front skidplate SHOULD extend down below and beyond the beam. If it doesn't, it's a wannabe, but is NOT a "skid" plate.

I DO believe your part of Colorado gets a fair amount of snow, doesn't it?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Not another Class 11 (style)... Reply with quote

Dusty

We get very little snow here in Grand Junction. However at our camp at 10,000 feet near Silverton they get plenty. Too much to drive around in except on plowed roads.

I had a Thing that I bought new in 73, and looking back and from what I've read it was a very capable rig. The gearing just wasn't low enough. I don't have much better now; 4.37 vs 4.12 on the Thing, but have a much bigger motor. 2017 vs 1600. I hope to have lower gears in the future.

The summer roads that I want to drive around on near Silverton would be considered easy jeep trails. I doubt that a carefully driver would ever touch the front beam on these roads. There are a few rougher trails; Poughkeepsie for one, but only a very built VW could manage it.

I will measure my beam height and sump height and post it. It may be a few days since I'm traveling.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Not another Class 11 (style)... Reply with quote

I plan to go with my friend who has a Jeep to Moab early July. Won't be far from you.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Not another Class 11 (style)... Reply with quote

Any news on this build? I too am running the Atomwerk lift plates and wondering how you are enjoying them?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:52 am    Post subject: Re: Not another Class 11 (style)... Reply with quote

stupid good thread
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:50 am    Post subject: Re: Not another Class 11 (style)... Reply with quote

dustymojave wrote:
I plan to go with my friend who has a Jeep to Moab early July. Won't be far from you.


Moab at the fourth of July was one of my fondest memories. old town get together at the park, food booths and games and band playing in the gazebo but was extremely hot. such nice people. best corn on the cob I ever had.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Not another Class 11 (style)... Reply with quote

That trip turned out to happen in late July. We didn't get to use my friend's flat fender Jeep as he got sick with shingles and was NOT feeling well the whole time. Still a great trip.

Weather was exactly the same as here at home in SoCal. Same temp to the precise degree.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:15 am    Post subject: Re: Not another Class 11 (style)... Reply with quote

The car described in this build thread is for sale again in Classifieds.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 3:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Not another Class 11 (style)... Reply with quote

Interesting the cage was removed somewhere along the way...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Not another Class 11 (style)... Reply with quote

I saw that too. The beam just lost its support. Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 6:29 am    Post subject: Re: Not another Class 11 (style)... Reply with quote

New sighting of this car over on FB. Still looking good.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 6:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Not another Class 11 (style)... Reply with quote

Thanks for posting! It sure has changed over the years.
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