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kingkarmann
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| 67 Florida Deluxe wrote: |
Holy smokes, aside from the repaint, THAT is killer original! I can't get my top to go down that far, the coconut fiber/horse hair pad is too stiff and I'm afraid to mash it down  |
I predict you will do very, very well😎
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Marcdeb
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:32 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| Braukuche wrote: |
| $52k very fair price I think for both parties. |
I thought it would go higher. When comparing with other auctions, this car is pretty rare.
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68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
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kingkarmann
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:35 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| Marcdeb wrote: |
| Braukuche wrote: |
| $52k very fair price I think for both parties. |
I thought it would go higher. When comparing with other auctions, this car is pretty rare. |
In this case I’m very glad it didn’t 
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Marcdeb
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:40 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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Wow! What are the chances of having two 67 Ghia Verts go up for auction back to back? This will be interestin. I like both cars but I've never been crazy about red on a Karmann Ghia. I think the lighter colors show the beautiful lines of the Ghia much better. This is a beautiful car.
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68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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kingkarmann
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:46 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| Marcdeb wrote: |
Wow! What are the chances of having two 67 Ghia Verts go up for auction back to back? This will be interestin. I like both cars but I've never been crazy about red on a Karmann Ghia. I think the lighter colors show the beautiful lines of the Ghia much better. This is a beautiful car. |
It is a stunner😎
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:50 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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I love the color too, but I think yellow like green has limited appeal.
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67 Florida Deluxe
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67 Florida Deluxe
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:55 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| kingkarmann wrote: |
| Marcdeb wrote: |
| Braukuche wrote: |
| $52k very fair price I think for both parties. |
I thought it would go higher. When comparing with other auctions, this car is pretty rare. |
In this case I’m very glad it didn’t |
LOL, I'll bet! I, too, think it was a very good price for both the buyer and seller
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Marcdeb
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:19 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| I love the color too, but I think yellow like green has limited appeal. |
I agree about some yellows, but I like this softer yellow. It is very similar to Pampas Yellow, which I find compliments the lines of these cars, as well as gives it more of a classic appearance.
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68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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Marcdeb
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| Marcdeb wrote: |
| Braukuche wrote: |
| $52k very fair price I think for both parties. |
I thought it would go higher. When comparing with other auctions, this car is pretty rare. |
In this case I’m very glad it didn’t |
It's worth every penny.
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68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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Trylon
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| Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:59 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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’58 Karmann Ghia Fever?
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John Moxon
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VeloMikey
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| Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:58 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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’58 Karmann Ghia Fever? |
Indeed. The argument that I didn't want to revive is, unlike other VW models the Karmann Ghia never had model years until around 1964. Changes in specifications were drip fed throughout the year and not accumulated to be introduced as a new specification in August each year. So it can be argued a December 1958 Karmann Ghia is a '58. |
The dash and front turn signals scream 59!
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EverettB
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| Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:05 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| Trylon wrote: |
’58 Karmann Ghia Fever? |
Indeed. The argument that I didn't want to revive is, unlike other VW models the Karmann Ghia never had model years until around 1964. Changes in specifications were drip fed throughout the year and not accumulated to be introduced as a new specification in August each year. So it can be argued a December 1958 Karmann Ghia is a '58. |
Some non-Ghia info for those interested:
This is pretty normal for Bugs and Buses too. Often major changes in August but lots of little changes at random.
And some bigger changes.
Buses are like that - door handles/wheel size changed mid-model 1963. Some seats changed mid-year, multiple times. Exterior and interior Bus colors changed in April, 1961.
Model years are more fixed though, except 1955 is a bit wacky.
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67 Florida Deluxe
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| Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:21 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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Some non-Ghia info for those interested:
This is pretty normal for Bugs and Buses too. Often major changes in August but lots of little changes at random.
And some bigger changes.
Buses are like that - door handles/wheel size changed mid-model 1963. Some seats changed mid-year, multiple times. Exterior and interior Bus colors changed in April, 1961.
Model years are more fixed though, except 1955 is a bit wacky. |
'67 bugs are a poster child for early/mid/late production year changes and subtle differences 
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John Moxon
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| Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:57 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| John Moxon wrote: |
| Trylon wrote: |
’58 Karmann Ghia Fever? |
Indeed. The argument that I didn't want to revive is, unlike other VW models the Karmann Ghia never had model years until around 1964. Changes in specifications were drip fed throughout the year and not accumulated to be introduced as a new specification in August each year. So it can be argued a December 1958 Karmann Ghia is a '58. |
The dash and front turn signals scream 59! |
...and the Dash '58. Dash Pad from mid January '59
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:12 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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Someone just placed a $35k bid on the 67 yellow convertible which shows that no one in their right mind thinks they are going to get a Ghia vert in that shape for less than $45k.
All you old Ghia freaks remember back in the 90s when these were less than $10k cars and a handful of people predicted “one day car nuts will catch on?”
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1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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kingkarmann
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| Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:34 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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Someone just placed a $35k bid on the 67 yellow convertible which shows that no one in their right mind thinks they are going to get a Ghia vert in that shape for less than $45k.
All you old Ghia freaks remember back in the 90s when these were less than $10k cars and a handful of people predicted “one day car nuts will catch on?” |
Exactly!
I knew Dustins 67 (now mine unbelievably) from seeing it advertised on Oldbug. I was in love with it then but I have never been a "collector". I really considered this car a possibility.
I guess I started digesting my own advice about the price trajectory on nice KG's
It just seemed that if I was going to jump I better do it now because they will never get any cheaper.
I really see it as an investment which I would have not imagined a Karmann Ghia to be.
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67 Florida Deluxe
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| Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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I'd love to see detailed pics of the inside front fender wells and headlight buckets, and rear inner fenders on the yellow car. I got them on the red car upon request and I'd love to see what the yellow car looks like in the critical areas, too. But I've given it a lot of thought and I'm sitting out of any more '60+ KG auctions. I'm just going to enjoy the amazing car I already have! But I am curious to keep up on other KGs out there.
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