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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:08 pm    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

Braukuche wrote:
Looks fantastic. Your going to have a hard time getting out of the car when it’s done.


Missed this!
Should have mentioned, I plan on sleeping in it!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:33 pm    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

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Got the passenger side door card on. Seems a little wrinkly but hopefully will settle down with time.
Also placed in under layment and mats. Not sure about all the layers for the tunnel. There’s a thin abrasive layer, a thicker softer layer, and the mat itself. We dry fitted one possible order and its seems that it will have to be adhered to the the tunnel to get it to lie down. We just put the finished mat on for now.
We also know we need to pull the back mat under layment under further.

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We almost put the seats in and went for a ride but I have had trouble with seats before and want to put these in once and for all. So we will wait for Luis to send back to wall mat.

Gotta tell you, it is starting to feel like a real car!

Ahhhh,
That new Karmann smell Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 4:26 pm    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

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Ahhhh,
That new Karmann smell Cool


And the weight and quiet thud of the doors closing.
I think I may need quinine.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 5:29 pm    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

Woke up this morning and had a terrible thought.
Perhaps what was grounding was the wire from the VR to the dash light.
And, if it was, it was not going to be easily fixed, being in the tube through the car.
Went out and tested it… not grounded. Whew. But what the heck burned that wire the second time?
Hmmm…

Well, we have gotten a new speedo. This one is 12/58, the same year our car was made, and it looks different from the one we have on there now— it is like the manual.
I did some testing on it and it conforms to the wiring diagram as you would expect.
So we tested the old one (still in our car) and quickly realized there was an important difference— even though the old one is only one year later.
See if you can spot it:

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The middle bulb is powered from the ignition switch in the old one and is not in the new one! I was basing the wiring on this diagram:

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The dot on the back of the speedo is the terminal with power from the ignition switch. And you can clearly see the middle bulb is not attached to it (just as in our new speedo). It gets its power (in a circuitous manner mind you) from the headlight switch.

So, if you hook up the ignition switch as shown in the diagram, and turn the key to the on position, you are sending unfused battery power to the terminal on the speedo, through the middle light bulb holder, and directly to ground.

Here’s the middle holder that shows what happens when you do:

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Yep, you get a nice little burn mark on it. Not to mention a fried wire.

So, I have no idea how the old speedo is supposed to be wired (though I have heard vague tales of different grounding on different models). That said, we seem to have finally found what the problem was and, happily, have a new speedo that conforms to the diagram. Will see if we install it before the show but I for one am feeling better about the wiring than I have since the problem.

We also fixed a bit of steering slip (yep, again). Alex managed to muscle another 1/4 turn out of the bolt and steering seems tight again.

Noticed that a front parking light went on when we stepped on the brakes (jeez, hadn’t thought to look) and realized that power is somehow backing up through the signal lever housing. Looks like two more diodes are in our future.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 4:14 am    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

Yep.

Here’s the speedo wiring (1961-65) for the one the PO put on our car.
And the power for the middle bulb comes from the ignition switch. (It’s connected to that little dot with the other two bulbs.)

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Mystery solved — PO’d again.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:20 am    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

Our car is coming along nicely, hope you make the Parade/Car Show. I saw 'your' PO at a local Aircooled show this past weekend....he was being avoided by most as if he has the Plague Smile .
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:21 am    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

Big Bill wrote:
Our car is coming along nicely, hope you make the Parade/Car Show. I saw 'your' PO at a local Aircooled show this past weekend....he was being avoided by most as if he has the Plague Smile .


Ha! Thanks so much for sharing that!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:43 am    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

BTW: Luis has our mat and has determined it can be repaired!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:28 am    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

For those that unfamiliar with our car’s origins.

https://ghiacoachworks.com/share/cars/59_MTKG_coupe/59_KG_coupe.html
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:06 pm    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

Trylon wrote:
Big Bill wrote:
Our car is coming along nicely, hope you make the Parade/Car Show. I saw 'your' PO at a local Aircooled show this past weekend....he was being avoided by most as if he has the Plague Smile .


Ha! Thanks so much for sharing that!


It's always nice to hear the latest about Mr. Troy. Eh?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:09 pm    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

Did we ever get to hear what awards it won?

Maybe Oakland Lemon of the year 2019?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:53 pm    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:55 pm    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

There was only 3 Ghias at that show!😆
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:05 pm    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

Here’s our car at it’s award win:

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

If they haven't been posted yet, I believe there's a few more pics at this link:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_search.php?search_keywords=kelley+park+2016+ghia
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 4:11 pm    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

EverettB wrote:
If they haven't been posted yet, I believe there's a few more pics at this link:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_search.php?search_keywords=kelley+park+2016+ghia


Well that’s a cool find Everett!
Will find our car and post the pics here.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 4:18 pm    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

Our car at Kelley Park, San Jose, CA April 17th, 2016

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The engine that I think was responsible for the award (and that we did not buy):
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Looks like we did get some of the parts though- generator, VR?, battery, fuel pump, distributor… in fact, now that I look at it (and am more familiar with it), it seems that we got that engine with the good stuff removed.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 6:49 pm    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

Our new 12/58 speedometer, installed:

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Made a mess with some adhesive trying to stick the bezel in.

We have yet to test the warning light wires we attached (ran out of time) but we did test the dash lights. As there is no wiring attached to the directional signal light, the dash lights below are shining through the gel. Paid top dollar for a nice restoration too. Some interior baffling missing?

Yep, zero miles. Our car is brand new!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 6:55 pm    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

I think you need to find a TATERS license plate for "our" car!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 6:56 pm    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

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I think you need to find a TATERS license plate for "our" car!


Ha!
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