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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 5:13 pm    Post subject: the OG back of rear seat had rubber Reply with quote

the OG back of rear seats had a rubbery cover that matched the carpet color and it connected to the base of the cargo area that then connect -somehow- to the back portion that was - I think - carpet below the rear window...when you a buy a carpet kit - is what used to be rubber now carpet or does the rubber textured portion come with the carpet kit??
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hear is a pic https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/302559.jpg
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Cody. My kit from Wolfsburg West has matching carpet that covers the seat back.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'67 used the rubber material that resembled carpet instead of actual carpet in the luggage area. I dont know of anywhere it's reproduced. So you have to settle for carpet as a replacement. BTW, where ever did you find a pic of such a nice '67 luggage area?? Wink

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that your car Kent? I thought I recognized it. Funny how you seem to supply the 67 photo library when we need to see the original stuff. Saved me once!! Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YES-it IS yours....mine has the OG rubber on the back as well - but not the connection to the rear so I'm not sure how I will handle that - I hate to think I should remove it from the back of the seat - but yours sure looks good Exclamation
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:43 pm    Post subject: Cargo area/seat back Reply with quote

That's what my '67 came with, some kind of rubberized fabric, molded with a carpet texture. My Wolfsburg West kit came with carpet.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 12:10 pm    Post subject: Re: the OG back of rear seat had rubber Reply with quote

Revival of an oldie. I've always liked this original luggage area upholstery, I have a nice og set that I'm having restored with new binding. I'm curious as to why this has never been reproduced, and I'm considering trying to have the material reproduced so as to be able to supply original style kits to others who want them.

Anyone want to chime in with info or comments please do.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 2:15 am    Post subject: Re: the OG back of rear seat had rubber Reply with quote

Not so popular it appears, perhaps why it's never been reproduced 😁
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:50 am    Post subject: Re: the OG back of rear seat had rubber Reply with quote

Just saw this post...

baz76, Probably one of the reasons there's 'crickets chirping' in the replies here is that this is posted in the 1958 - 1967 forum. 1967 would be the only year out of 9 years within the '58-'67 bracket that would have this rubberized material back there. And I think so many '67 folks out there have just completely given up on any hope of ever encountering this original factory type material - whether good used, OR anyone attempting a reproduction that they've moved on to simply using square weave wool back there instead. Which is what the rubberized matting is made to simulate anyway.

Having said that, I'm sure that there's still enough interest in something that would be offered as a quality "reproduction" of this elusive rubberized matting-carpet, if made correctly. Perhaps you might consider posting this thread in the '68 and up forum too, as the same material was also used in the 1968 and 1969 beetles. (And maybe even the early 1970 model?)

Another point to think about if you were engage in reproducing it is that there are two completely different patterns to consider - One for sedans, and one for convertibles! I'm sure I'm not alone here in saying that I'd be VERY interested in seeing a new reproduction offered!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:38 pm    Post subject: Re: the OG back of rear seat had rubber Reply with quote

67conv wrote:
Just saw this post...

baz76, Probably one of the reasons there's 'crickets chirping' in the replies here is that this is posted in the 1958 - 1967 forum. 1967 would be the only year out of 9 years within the '58-'67 bracket that would have this rubberized material back there. And I think so many '67 folks out there have just completely given up on any hope of ever encountering this original factory type material - whether good used, OR anyone attempting a reproduction that they've moved on to simply using square weave wool back there instead. Which is what the rubberized matting is made to simulate anyway.

Having said that, I'm sure that there's still enough interest in something that would be offered as a quality "reproduction" of this elusive rubberized matting-carpet, if made correctly. Perhaps you might consider posting this thread in the '68 and up forum too, as the same material was also used in the 1968 and 1969 beetles. (And maybe even the early 1970 model?)

Another point to think about if you were engage in reproducing it is that there are two completely different patterns to consider - One for sedans, and one for convertibles! I'm sure I'm not alone here in saying that I'd be VERY interested in seeing a new reproduction offered!


Thanks for the reply, I thought all bugs down to early 60s used this style in the luggage area, I guess I was mistaken. Pretty short window of use then 67-70. Doubt there'd be enough interest to warrant a reproduction run of material.

Edit. Found a picture in the gallery of a 63 beetle with this style of rubberised carpet.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:47 pm    Post subject: Re: the OG back of rear seat had rubber Reply with quote

[quote="baz76"]
67conv wrote:

style of rubberised carpet.

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I have the same in my 65', that is not rubberized. It is the wool carpet from the factory.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 2:05 pm    Post subject: Re: the OG back of rear seat had rubber Reply with quote

[quote="toxicavenger70"]
baz76 wrote:
67conv wrote:

style of rubberised carpet.

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I have the same in my 65', that is not rubberized. It is the wool carpet from the factory.



Great thanks for the clarification.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 2:11 pm    Post subject: Re: the OG back of rear seat had rubber Reply with quote

baz76 wrote:

Edit. Found a picture in the gallery of a 63 beetle with this style of rubberised carpet.

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If you look very carefully under where the binding has frayed and exposed the material underneath it, you can see that it appears to be wool carpeting under there, not the rubberized material. Sometimes, 50 or 60 year old sun and heat drenched original square weave carpeting can appear to look rather "petrified" and faded, giving it the hardened look as in the posted pic of the '63 from the gallery. Assuredly, the change from square weave wool carpet in the rear compartment to the rubberized material back there began with the 1967 model year.

A close up of the rubberized material..

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And in a '67 convertible from gallery...

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sedan from gallery..

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one more closeup from the gallery from a '67 vert..

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:20 pm    Post subject: Re: the OG back of rear seat had rubber Reply with quote

Hello; Any information from anyone regarding how to separate the "rubber carpet" from the rear seat back at the bottom "hinge"? I don't want to cut the material given that it is not reproduced. Mine is stuck fast, and does not want to pry loose.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:39 am    Post subject: Re: the OG back of rear seat had rubber Reply with quote

Peternevada - If I understand your question correctly, you are referring to the shorter "intermediate" piece attached to the rear seat-back bottom edge, which extends between the larger luggage compartment mat (floor) and seat back bottom when seat back is folded down. I assume your seat back is removed from your car.

Look up under the seat back bottom edge for some attachment points on the lower frame tube. Carefully pull the material up and off.

The picture below shows the first couple holes in the piece where it gets attached, at bottom of picture. Hope this might help you..

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:28 pm    Post subject: Re: the OG back of rear seat had rubber Reply with quote

Hi; First, thank you very much for posting a reply! My seat back is still in the car. It seemed that the most straight forward way to remove the seat back would be to detach the carpet from the seat, and leave the carpet and back board in place. So, I unscrewed the top metal trim piece and pulled the nails that tack the carpet and board to the seat frame. All that is left is the carpet attachment to the bottom of the seat frame (see blue line on the attached photo). It looks like from your picture that this is nailed to the seat frame? Perhaps all I need do is pry a bit harder? Thanks again for your help.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:35 pm    Post subject: Re: the OG back of rear seat had rubber Reply with quote

It's been 30 years since I had my '67, but I was SURE it had the rubber. Nice to see this confirmed! I still have a few good brain cells left...
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