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jb20thae
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 Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:19 pm Post subject: Re: Fiberglass bumper/cladding repair |
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Great info, thank you.
Flash Silver Metallic... paint bumpers body color, black, or the oem two-tone?? |
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SyncroHead 
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| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:36 am Post subject: Re: Fiberglass bumper/cladding repair |
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| jb20thae wrote: |
Great info, thank you.
Flash Silver Metallic... paint bumpers body color, black, or the oem two-tone?? |
The OEM silver/gray bumper color looks good with the original blue and burgandy colored vans, but does tend to fad to a semi-green-ish hue. I think it sort of clashed with Vesuve Grey and Flash Silver though.
My personal preference is either black or Flash Silver to match the body. If paining silver, I prefer the "rub strips" to be left black though.
I'm sure yours will look great, whichever direction you go!
Jim
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Red Ryder
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| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:50 am Post subject: Re: Fiberglass bumper/cladding repair |
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Thanks, all! Scarlett is now at the “spa” (body shop) for a fresh coat of OEM “Cloud Gray Metallic” paint on her bumpers/cladding. She will also get new paint on her front clip to remove the “road acne” accumulated over 31 years, and a new windshield!
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DuncanS
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| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:21 am Post subject: Re: Fiberglass bumper/cladding repair |
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I might be wrong here, but I once heard the term "clip" referred to the part which was ruined in the accident. This means if you want the front part of a car you need to order a rear "clip".
Is this true? |
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rmcd
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| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 2:28 pm Post subject: Re: Fiberglass bumper/cladding repair |
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A little late but for others doing this. Here is a no fiberglass approach.
Mine were in pieces. I glued mine together with two part auto panel glue called Lord fusor. It shrinks a little when dry but hardens like concrete.
You can also form it with a wet finger. Make sure you remove any excess as it will require a grinder.
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Red Ryder
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| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 3:03 pm Post subject: Re: Fiberglass bumper/cladding repair |
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| DuncanS wrote: |
I might be wrong here, but I once heard the term "clip" referred to the part which was ruined in the accident. This means if you want the front part of a car you need to order a rear "clip".
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I was using the term generically to refer to a section of the body separated by seams or obvious edges. To be more precise, new paint will be applied to Scarlett’s entire front end forward of the driver/passenger doors and up to the “A” pillar seam with the roof.
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?Waldo?
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| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 3:06 pm Post subject: Re: Fiberglass bumper/cladding repair |
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| I have only ever heard a front clip meaning the front of the vehicle and a rear clip meaning the rear of the vehicle. A quick search on Google supports that nomenclature. |
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DuncanS
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| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 3:18 pm Post subject: Re: Fiberglass bumper/cladding repair |
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| Yah. I thought it sounded pretty weird. |
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jb20thae
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| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: Fiberglass bumper/cladding repair |
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| SyncroHead wrote: |
| jb20thae wrote: |
Great info, thank you.
Flash Silver Metallic... paint bumpers body color, black, or the oem two-tone?? |
The OEM silver/gray bumper color looks good with the original blue and burgandy colored vans, but does tend to fad to a semi-green-ish hue. I think it sort of clashed with Vesuve Grey and Flash Silver though.
My personal preference is either black or Flash Silver to match the body. If paining silver, I prefer the "rub strips" to be left black though.
I'm sure yours will look great, whichever direction you go!
Jim |
The oem silver/grey does seem to clash with Flash, doesn't it. Black would be easy but you lose the uniformity somehow. This looks good but it's the money shot angle
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djkeev
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DuncanS
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| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:26 am Post subject: Re: Fiberglass bumper/cladding repair |
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| West System is one of the easiest epoxy choices. They have pumps which deliver exactly the correct ratios. 10 oz cloth and some 406 colloidal silica to thicken it for certain applications. Disposable chip brushes and acetone for clean up. I always use exam gloves when chemicals have a part B. |
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dobryan
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pdm777
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 9:04 pm Post subject: Re: Fiberglass bumper/cladding repair |
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Just DO NOT paint the bumpers
Black
Gloss Black
Satin Black
Wrinkle-Finish Black
BedLiner Black
Primer Flat Blat
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Red Ryder
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| Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:43 pm Post subject: Re: Fiberglass bumper/cladding repair |
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| pdm777 wrote: |
Just DO NOT paint the bumpers
Black
Gloss Black
Satin Black
Wrinkle-Finish Black
BedLiner Black
Primer Flat Blat
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Well, most aftermarket bumpers are painted black so standby for incoming!😁
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pdm777
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| Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:47 pm Post subject: Re: Fiberglass bumper/cladding repair |
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The Factory color for fibreglas bumpers is not black,
Factory bumpers are grey.
and looks awesome.
Rattlecan Black paint
on the rockers is a common
ploy to hide rust.
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kamzcab86
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| Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 4:27 pm Post subject: Re: Fiberglass bumper/cladding repair |
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The Factory color for fibreglas bumpers is not black,
Factory bumpers are grey.
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Depends on the model. Most are, in fact, Graphite or Black:
Some special editions are color-matched:
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pdm777
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| Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: Fiberglass bumper/cladding repair |
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Kamz,
THank You!
Fun to see the variety of colors.
I wonder why some of the
plastic bumpers were grey,
some were black.
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atarasi
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| Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 6:12 pm Post subject: Re: Fiberglass bumper/cladding repair |
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I’ve repaired a few fiberglass bumpers. Make sure you use a SMC resin and filler. These bumpers were made with a release agent where regular fiberglass resin won’t stick.
Factory paint color for the bumper is Cloud Gray Metallic LV7N with the center darker color Graphite LH7B |
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dart330
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| Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 7:29 pm Post subject: Re: Fiberglass bumper/cladding repair |
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If anyone knows a source for Cloud Gray Metallic LV7N paint in the USA, there are many people looking for it. Nobody has that color code in their system.
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ALIKA T3
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| Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 8:04 pm Post subject: Re: Fiberglass bumper/cladding repair |
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| pdm777 wrote: |
Kamz,
THank You!
Fun to see the variety of colors.
I wonder why some of the
plastic bumpers were grey,
some were black. |
Grey is painted, black is raw. The raw ones turn kinda grey/chalky black with the sun.
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