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Garciuhhh Samba Member
Joined: August 30, 2021 Posts: 2 Location: Washington
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:28 pm Post subject: 66 Karmann Ghia Shift Linkage issues |
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I bought a 1966 karmann Ghia Coupe and the guy who had it before did some pretty messed up stuff to it. I'm assuming he was trying to rat it out. But now the car won't shift into 3rd, 4th, or reverse. The other issue is there is a lot of side to side play while I'm in gear. If anyone can point me in the right direction as to where to begin fixing this mess, any help would be appreciated. And if you're the guy who did this, please tell me how it works. (The shifter is a scat drag fast, and yes. The shift column is a cylinder block out of a small engine of some sort) the engine was also raised so the car could be lowered. That is why the shift linkage is exposed the way it is
_________________ 1966 Karmann Ghia
1641CC Dual Carbureted
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Marcdeb Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2019 Posts: 3009 Location: Vermont
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Garciuhhh Samba Member
Joined: August 30, 2021 Posts: 2 Location: Washington
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:55 pm Post subject: Re: 66 Karmann Ghia Shift Linkage issues |
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Yeah that's looking like my only option really. If I could clean up the way it looks, and get it to work right, I'd like to keep it the way it is. I think the cylinder block shift column is a very cool idea. It's just not very practical for troubleshooting. _________________ 1966 Karmann Ghia
1641CC Dual Carbureted
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sputnick60 Samba Moderator
Joined: July 22, 2007 Posts: 3907 Location: In Molinya Orbit
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slayer61 Samba Member
Joined: June 01, 2021 Posts: 999 Location: CA
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:13 am Post subject: Re: 66 Karmann Ghia Shift Linkage issues |
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Man. I thought MY PO was an asshole! |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12815 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:52 am Post subject: Re: 66 Karmann Ghia Shift Linkage issues |
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There’s a shit ton of fuckery going on there.
You need to beat all that shit out of there & start anew, probably just a couple bats with a rolled up newspaper would probably do by the looks of those welds. Then there’s those welds, if the shifter looks that shitty, I would seriously question the integrity of the rest of the shit done to the car, some of which could mean life & death.
That “cylinder block” is a cylinder from an air cooled VW engine. It really needs to be removed from the interior as the cast iron fins break easily & would love nothing better than to julienne your ass in the event of a sudden stop.
Judging by the fucked up welds on the mystery plate on the tunnel, you should start to research whether you have a viable title for this turd.
Furthermore, that shifter was beaten to death & thrown in the scrap pile before the previous fucktard dug it out & started gluing all that shit together before dumping it on you. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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kman Samba Member
Joined: November 04, 2005 Posts: 739 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:20 am Post subject: Re: 66 Karmann Ghia Shift Linkage issues |
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TDCTDI wrote: |
There’s a shit ton of fuckery going on there.
You need to beat all that shit out of there & start anew, probably just a couple bats with a rolled up newspaper would probably do by the looks of those welds. Then there’s those welds, if the shifter looks that shitty, I would seriously question the integrity of the rest of the shit done to the car, some of which could mean life & death.
That “cylinder block” is a cylinder from an air cooled VW engine. It really needs to be removed from the interior as the cast iron fins break easily & would love nothing better than to julienne your ass in the event of a sudden stop.
Judging by the fucked up welds on the mystery plate on the tunnel, you should start to research whether you have a viable title for this turd.
Furthermore, that shifter was beaten to death & thrown in the scrap pile before the previous fucktard dug it out & started gluing all that shit together before dumping it on you. |
What are you saying? It lacks fit and finish? _________________ 71 vert build. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=572951&highlight=dead |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12815 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:24 am Post subject: Re: 66 Karmann Ghia Shift Linkage issues |
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However, to start with, if you plan on trying to make any of it work, you really need a new (or original) shifter.
You need a another shift rod, or have the one you have welded, those bolts & screws aren’t going to keep it solid enough.
You then need to make a snug loop around the shift rod on that jagged piece of metal that sits where the parking brake handle once was to eliminate any side to side movement of the shift rod. The front of the shift rod needs to be in the center of that crevasse in the cylinder (now shifter base.) _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12815 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:28 am Post subject: Re: 66 Karmann Ghia Shift Linkage issues |
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kman wrote: |
What are you saying? It lacks fit and finish? |
Nope, I’m saying, & I want this to be perfectly clear, the ass weasel that concocted this abomination was completely devoid of any mechanical aptitude, whatsoever, & should have this entire butchered piece of shit shoved up his ass… sideways. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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Marcdeb Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2019 Posts: 3009 Location: Vermont
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:23 am Post subject: Re: 66 Karmann Ghia Shift Linkage issues |
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TDCTDI wrote: |
kman wrote: |
What are you saying? It lacks fit and finish? |
Nope, I’m saying, & I want this to be perfectly clear, the ass weasel that concocted this abomination was completely devoid of any mechanical aptitude, whatsoever, & should have this entire butchered piece of shit shoved up his ass… sideways. |
I'm glad you are being very clear about this disaster. We wouldn't want anyone to misunderstand. _________________ Marc
68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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Era Vulgaris Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2012 Posts: 1662 Location: Raleigh, NC
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:40 am Post subject: Re: 66 Karmann Ghia Shift Linkage issues |
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I'd be curious how this car was even bought and titled, being that the VIN has been removed from the tunnel.
I'd also like to know how in the hell the O.P. bought this car without talking to the seller. Was this a sight unseen online buy? Why do these posts keep happening where someone buys an absolute frankensteined disaster while knowing nothing about it? Who is buying these messes without looking at them or talking to the seller?
TDCTDI said exactly what I was thinking, looking at this disasterpiece. Those welds look like someone just bought their first Harbor Freight flux welder and had no idea what they were doing. There's zero penetration on any of those welds. You could probably just kick most of that junkyard sculpture loose.
So sad someone did this to a 66. Such a great model year with so much one-year-only stuff. _________________ Currently own:
66 Karmann Ghia, L390 Gulf Blue, under construction, here: www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=760505&highlight=
99 Mazda MX-5 10AE, Sapphire Blue Mica, 6 speed, LSD
Previously owned:
98 Porsche Boxster, silver, 2.5L -- 67 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1500sp -- 98 BMW Z3, Atlanta Blue Metallic, 2.8L I6 -- 75 Porsche 914, Laguna Blue, 2270cc -- 72 Porsche 914, Signal Orange, 1.7 FI -- 74 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1600dp -- 74 Triumph TR6 with O.D., sapphire blue |
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LVGhia72 Samba Member
Joined: April 22, 2020 Posts: 282 Location: Lost Wages
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:38 am Post subject: Re: 66 Karmann Ghia Shift Linkage issues |
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What does the rest of the car look like?
Hopefully, better than the shifter boondoggle.
Rip all that AFU shifter BS out and start over.
But, then again if the car looks like the shifter boondoggle, a lot of work to be done.
Best of luck on your project. |
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Trylon Samba Member
Joined: August 16, 2019 Posts: 4853 Location: Connecticut
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:33 pm Post subject: Re: 66 Karmann Ghia Shift Linkage issues |
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So this is not stock for a ‘66? _________________ 1973 Porsche 914 2.0
1959 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia
1979 Volkswagen Rabbit
1973 Volkswagen Bus
1970 MGB-GT
1962 Oldsmobile Jetfire
More tomfoolery on
The Karmann Ghia Fever YouTube Channel! |
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Vladiiiii Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2019 Posts: 518 Location: Munich, Germany
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NoDents Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2017 Posts: 438 Location: So Cal
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:12 pm Post subject: Re: 66 Karmann Ghia Shift Linkage issues |
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Wow... _________________ No Dents
1963 Bug - Sold in 1980
1966 Karmann Ghia Convertible - Stolen in 1988
1971 Karmann Ghia Convertible, resto/mod COMPLETED 10/2020 |
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rbsurfguy Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2008 Posts: 1757 Location: Fairfax, Northern Virginia Formerly Huntington Beach, SoCal
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:47 pm Post subject: Re: 66 Karmann Ghia Shift Linkage issues |
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I've seen a lot of hack jobs, but this almost beats most of the Ghia abortion examples in that thread. Never seen anything like this in my entire life. If the PO was trying to build a rat rod, as previously stated, they sure did a fine job! TDCTDI said exactly what was screaming in my head.
Jeff _________________ 1971 Ghia convertible (Body off rebuild)
2019 VW Atlas 4Motion
2012 Passat-Sold
See my build on The Samba at:
Jeff's 71 Vert Restoration/Reassembly http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6...highlight= |
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Trylon Samba Member
Joined: August 16, 2019 Posts: 4853 Location: Connecticut
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:50 pm Post subject: Re: 66 Karmann Ghia Shift Linkage issues |
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Vladiiiii wrote: |
Could well be the next modification for a certain red 59 |
So it’s stock for lowlights then? _________________ 1973 Porsche 914 2.0
1959 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia
1979 Volkswagen Rabbit
1973 Volkswagen Bus
1970 MGB-GT
1962 Oldsmobile Jetfire
More tomfoolery on
The Karmann Ghia Fever YouTube Channel! |
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iowegian Samba Curmudgeon
Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 9826 Location: Somewhere between Dubuque and Keokuk
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:58 pm Post subject: Re: 66 Karmann Ghia Shift Linkage issues |
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Maybe all it needs is a new nylon bushing.
I put one of 'em in my '66 Beetle and now it shifts like a brandy-ass new Honda. |
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overboost Samba Member
Joined: June 11, 2021 Posts: 178 Location: Huntersville, NC
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:03 pm Post subject: Re: 66 Karmann Ghia Shift Linkage issues |
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Looking at that abortion of a shifter, all I can say is I have never seen anything so awful, ever. I mean really? A 85.5mm cylinder as a spacer? OMFG. OP, please take some more pics of the car you bought from this guy, I have to see more.
Is that a radiator in the box in the right front footwell? SWEET! _________________ The older I get... The faster I was... |
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NoDents Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2017 Posts: 438 Location: So Cal
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:34 pm Post subject: Re: 66 Karmann Ghia Shift Linkage issues |
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Nylon bushing.... I think the s cond photo shows a support about a foot behind the gearshift. Looking closely it appears another piece of metal was welded to this maybe to enclose the shaft to keep it in place(?) Instead of the bushing. _________________ No Dents
1963 Bug - Sold in 1980
1966 Karmann Ghia Convertible - Stolen in 1988
1971 Karmann Ghia Convertible, resto/mod COMPLETED 10/2020 |
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