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McMadden Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:32 am Post subject: Re: The Type 4 Engine Thread FAQ |
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Wildthings wrote: |
Has the input shaft been shortened? If not then they may have used the spacers to keep it for bottoming out in the gland nut.
Maybe there was a clearance problem getting the clutch and flywheel you have to work with the Bug transmission.
You can see that the starter drive teeth have only been running along about 1/2 if the length of the teeth on the ring gear. |
I was told on another forum that currently the 914 flywheel that's on there is too thick. The remedy is to use a 1972 and up bus flywheel. Does this sound right? |
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Kenneth1851 Samba Member
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Ceckert64 Samba Member
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:28 am Post subject: Re: The Type 4 Engine Thread FAQ |
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If you still run the AC, and it is a piston unit, you might look to convert it to a rotary or scroll type unit. They are more reliable and put a lot less strain on parts. They also rob less horsepower to operate. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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jhingen Samba Member
Joined: June 01, 2020 Posts: 93 Location: TEXAS
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 10:06 am Post subject: Re: The Type 4 Engine Thread FAQ |
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Hey all didn't want to create a new thread so I hope adding to this one will be ok. I had my 1.8 short block rebuilt with 93mm 1.8 Porsche 914/ VW Type 4 Bus Piston & Cylinder Kit and a SCAT C25 Cam at the machine shop. This is my 1st VW engine I have worked on to this degree so sorry if these are stupid questions, just want to get it right the 1st time.
I am at the point of replacing the lifters with the EMPI 98-8625-B - TYPE 2/4 SOLID LIFTERS (Machine Shop Provided). My questions are 1) is this a good option for that Cam ? 2) they said the original push rods would be ok to use, does that sound like a good option? If not what are the recommendations? Thanks in advance.
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Vanagonsgoslow Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2019 Posts: 82 Location: E Dorado Hills, CA
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:29 am Post subject: Re: The Type 4 Engine Thread FAQ |
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Weren’t the 1970 Porsche 914’s the first vehicles to use the fuel injected Type4 engines in 1.7 liter size? |
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DADWAGN Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2021 Posts: 1 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:15 pm Post subject: Re: The Type 4 Engine Thread FAQ |
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I have a 73 bus, ordered to Los Angeles with a type 4 1700. It has the smog fan and the exhaust heat pull. Looks identical to you picture shown, I’ll upload some pictures, prior owners did a very good job of maintaining it.
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1966type1 Samba Member
Joined: September 09, 2015 Posts: 129 Location: New hampshire
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 5:26 pm Post subject: Re: The Type 4 Engine Thread FAQ |
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Can anybody tell me what this little “box” is and what is supposed to hook up
To it.
_________________ 1966 beetle sedan "blue bird"
1972 super auto stick
1972 deluxe bay window "big Larry"
1997 Jetta "the red car"
2001 Jetta 1.8 "the blue car" |
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SamboSamba22 Samba Member
Joined: August 06, 2015 Posts: 2772 Location: Benton, Arkansas
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 6:24 pm Post subject: Re: The Type 4 Engine Thread FAQ |
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That’s the crankcase vent. Original setup would have a hose running to it from either the center air box with carbs or a hose coming from the S boot with fuel injection.
Seeing you have a center mount Progressive carb, do you not have a plastic port coming from the intake? A hose should run from intake port to breather box. If you leave that box open, it can, make a mess in the engine bay. _________________ The Bus Barn Ltd. Co.
Oct. ’67 Double Cab (’68 Crew Cab)
[url=http://www.vw-mplate.com/mplate-44412.png]Click to view image[/URL]
March '69 Delivery (Panel Bus)
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1966type1 Samba Member
Joined: September 09, 2015 Posts: 129 Location: New hampshire
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 6:29 pm Post subject: Re: The Type 4 Engine Thread FAQ |
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There is a plastic port on the bottom of the carb just below where the air filter is. So there should be a hose from the vent to the carb? Thanks _________________ 1966 beetle sedan "blue bird"
1972 super auto stick
1972 deluxe bay window "big Larry"
1997 Jetta "the red car"
2001 Jetta 1.8 "the blue car" |
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orwell84 Samba Member
Joined: May 14, 2007 Posts: 2536 Location: Plattsburgh, New York
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 6:38 pm Post subject: Re: The Type 4 Engine Thread FAQ |
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jhingen wrote: |
Hey all didn't want to create a new thread so I hope adding to this one will be ok. I had my 1.8 short block rebuilt with 93mm 1.8 Porsche 914/ VW Type 4 Bus Piston & Cylinder Kit and a SCAT C25 Cam at the machine shop. This is my 1st VW engine I have worked on to this degree so sorry if these are stupid questions, just want to get it right the 1st time.
I am at the point of replacing the lifters with the EMPI 98-8625-B - TYPE 2/4 SOLID LIFTERS (Machine Shop Provided). My questions are 1) is this a good option for that Cam ? 2) they said the original push rods would be ok to use, does that sound like a good option? If not what are the recommendations? Thanks in advance.
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They should be fine. Read up on rocker arm geometry. It’s basically looking at how the valve adjusters hit the valve stems when opening and closing the valves. If it’s not right shimming the rocker arms or changing the length of the pushrod tubes are ways to correct it. But I doubt you will have go with different push rods for the C25. It’s just good to check as you are finishing up your engine build. I have never run the C25, but I have heard it is similar to the web 73 which I run in my bus. I have heard good feedback from people running it. I think it’s not so far off from the stock cam that you will struggle setting it up. |
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SamboSamba22 Samba Member
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1966type1 Samba Member
Joined: September 09, 2015 Posts: 129 Location: New hampshire
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2022 7:07 am Post subject: Re: The Type 4 Engine Thread FAQ |
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Thank you my friend _________________ 1966 beetle sedan "blue bird"
1972 super auto stick
1972 deluxe bay window "big Larry"
1997 Jetta "the red car"
2001 Jetta 1.8 "the blue car" |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2022 7:37 am Post subject: Re: The Type 4 Engine Thread FAQ |
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if the plastic port connects to the intake manifold or under the butterfly no. If the plastic port connects to the carb above the butterfly yes. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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1966type1 Samba Member
Joined: September 09, 2015 Posts: 129 Location: New hampshire
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2022 7:40 am Post subject: Re: The Type 4 Engine Thread FAQ |
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Yes it connects about the butterfly. Thanks _________________ 1966 beetle sedan "blue bird"
1972 super auto stick
1972 deluxe bay window "big Larry"
1997 Jetta "the red car"
2001 Jetta 1.8 "the blue car" |
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honkadori Samba Member
Joined: September 02, 2020 Posts: 23 Location: los angeles
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:56 pm Post subject: Re: The Type 4 Engine Thread FAQ |
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hello! instead making a new thread i thought i can add it here. the photo above is from a type 4 engine out of my 77 bus. when i was cleaning the engine case i found this plug inserted but not connected to anything and i was not able to find any information on it. can anyone tell me what this is? thanks! _________________ '73 bug
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NASkeet Samba Member
Joined: April 29, 2006 Posts: 2958 Location: South Benfleet, Essex, UK
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:28 pm Post subject: Re: The Type 4 Engine Thread FAQ |
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honkadori wrote: |
hello! instead making a new thread i thought i can add it here. the photo above is from a type 4 engine out of my 77 bus. when i was cleaning the engine case i found this plug inserted but not connected to anything and i was not able to find any information on it. can anyone tell me what this is? thanks! |
It's a TDC - top dead centre sensor, which I think tied in with the old 1970s vintage plug-in computer diagnosis system, that has long been obsolete! _________________ Regards.
Nigel A. Skeet
Independent tutor (semi-retired) of mathematics, physics, technology & engineering for secondary, tertiary, further & higher education.
Much modified, RHD 1973 VW "1600" Type 2 Westfalia Continental campervan, with the World's only decent, cross-over-arm, SWF pantograph rear-window wiper
Onetime member, plus former Technical Editor & Editor of Transporter Talk magazine
Volkswagen Type 2 Owners' Club (Great Britain)
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honkadori Samba Member
Joined: September 02, 2020 Posts: 23 Location: los angeles
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:34 pm Post subject: Re: The Type 4 Engine Thread FAQ |
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hi nigel,
thanks for the super fast reply. great! one thing less to worry about. thank you so much! _________________ '73 bug
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