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Rocknrod Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 2157 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:43 am Post subject: Tiico Engine parts availability? |
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Hi,
I'm curious what Year/Make/Model to ask for at a parts counter, if I need to get parts for one of these engines at an auto parts store?
FAS is shut down until the 20th on Summer holiday, so I'm curious what all is available through an Autozone or NAPA.
Thanks,
Zach _________________ 1971 Westfalia with a high top.
http://71vwbus.blogspot.com/ - Pictures and words... Oh My! |
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12115 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:20 am Post subject: |
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Van Cafe also sells Tiico parts |
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metropoj Samba Member
Joined: April 23, 2004 Posts: 1343
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:09 am Post subject: |
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Oh baby, it's a hodgepodge collection of goodies, so depending what you need, van Cafe can fit the bill for some basics.
I'm going to cut and paste in a collection of things that are hopefully
a) accurate and b) helpful. Some of this I've scrounged via the Tiico site and some from my own personal needs. Some A2 injection part numbers in here, some A3 serpentine conversion part numbers too.
Description Part Number
exhaust manifold gaskets all 8v US 4 cyl up to '93
1.9L WASSERBOXER MUFFLER 025 251 053 E
2.1L WASSERBOXER CATALYTIC CONVERTER. 025 131 701 A
A2 Fuel Rail 037133317B
ABF Style Alternator bracket without A/C. Has tensioner wheel style A3 Factory non A-C Bracket 037903143C
AIR FILTER FRAM DIRECT REPLACEMENT CA9345 / Fram CA5608
AIR FILTER K&N INSERT RE 0950
coolant hose flange rear of head 90 jetta Diesel ( or get aluminum one )
coolant hose flanges= front of head: Golf Jetta 8v '89-'92
Coolant Pressure Expansion Tank late-CS+KY+TiiCo+DH 025-121-407
Coolant Pressure Expansion Tank Low Level Sender late-CS+KY+TiiCo+DH 251-919-372
coolant temp sensor 93-'98 Jetta, Golf
Crank pulley bolts- 8mm x 1.25 x 45mm
diesel motor mount 251.199.201G
distributor 88-'92 Jetta,Golf '85-'92 Golf GTi 8v, '86-88 Jetta GLi 8v, '90-92 Fox
DISTRIBUTOR CAP BOSCH GOLF 87 - 92 8V 03 214
DISTRIBUTOR ROTOR BOSCH GOLF 87 - 92 04 170
exhaust manifold=depending on early or late) Audi 4k 4 cyl or Jetta Golf non-Cali models '88-'92, Golf GTi 8v '85-'92, Jetta GLi '86-'88
front crank seal (cam seal, intermediate seal) 4cyl VW from '76-'98
Fuel Pressure Regulator A2 0 280 160 235
head gasket 1.8l 8v 4 cyl '83-'98 ACC Code 050 103 383 A
Head Stretch Bolts 049 103 385 A replaced 050 103 384
Hose - Lower 3-Way Hose (Return) From Radiator Pipe & Oil Cooler to Water Pump plate-CS+KY+TiiCo 068-121-073G
Hose - Lower 3-Way Hose (Return) From Front Heater Core Hose to Water Pump & Expansion Tank late S+KY+TiiCo+JX 068-121-081C
Hose - Upper “Octopus Hose” 4-Way Hose Feed From Block to Radiator, Oil Cooler & Expansion Tank late-CS+KY+TiiCo+JX 068-121-101H
injectors: 037 906 031AK or supersession 037 906 031R
MAP Duo Sensor 0 261 230 031
N80 Purge Valve 06E906517A
Non Factory A/C Serpentine Bracket / TiiCo serpentine belt 6PK976
O2 Sensor VW# 021 906 265 AQ, OR BOSCH# 15026
O2 Sensor Connector Part#: 3AO 973 304 A
O2 Sensor wire VW #000 979 133 E 000 979 133 E, just the O2 side
oil cooler 068.117.021B
OIL FILTER VW GOLF 75- ON 056 115 561G MANN W719/5 or 1GS.115.561
Oil pan / Engine Mounts Vanagon Diesel 83+
oil pressure switch blue 028.919.081D
oil pressure switch grey 068.919.081A
P/S Belt 12X685
P/S Crank Pulley ABA 037 105 253
P/S Pump ABA
Pilot Bearing Diesel 056105313C
Power Steering A3 pump to A3 Crank pulley for TiiCo 12X685
rear main seal Jetta Golf 4cyl '99-
Rubber Valve Cover gasket upgrade 026 198 025 C
SPARK PLUG BOSCH GOLF 87 - 92 WR7DS
TENSIONER PULLEY VW GOLF 87 - 026 109 243E
Throttle body position sensor 96-'98 Jetta, Golf 037-133-064J
Timing belt KIT 056 109 119A KT
TIMING BELT VW GOLF 87 - 91 056 109 119A
water outlet distributor 037.121.133F
Water outlet to head 026.121.1452
water pump pulley bolts 8mm x 1.25mm x 15mm
WIRE SET BOSCH GOLF 87 - 92 Bosch 9152 09 152 |
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pdm777 Samba Member
Joined: August 06, 2012 Posts: 348 Location: Clovis, CA
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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Thank You for the list!!!!
My tiico (Audi 80 2.0 w 8v head) is having exhaust cracks
where the pipes meet the manifold.
I see that OEM VW manifolds have a metal bellows.
Assuming this is to address the stress cracks,
has anyone made a inline 4 exhaust that incorporates these bellows?
OR, for improved performance, a header?
I know the FAS exhaust exists, I am put off by the $$$$$$.
($699 for uncoated, unpainted and not stainless steel exhaust,
not including cat or muffler.... )
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metropoj Samba Member
Joined: April 23, 2004 Posts: 1343
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm, u sure you have a "tiico"? What injection are you running? Sounds like u are running digifant on a 80 block which is a nice combo btw.
I asked FAS about the bellows. They said they had seen cracking with them too. If I dig up the email I'll post it here |
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vwfreek61 Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2004 Posts: 350 Location: Green Bay, WI
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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pdm777 wrote: |
My tiico (Audi 80 2.0 w 8v head) is having exhaust cracks
where the pipes meet the manifold.
I see that OEM VW manifolds have a metal bellows.
Assuming this is to address the stress cracks,
has anyone made a inline 4 exhaust that incorporates these bellows?
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I used a flex joint in my exhaust. I just got it running this week, so I'll see how it holds up.
_________________ Kenneth
1964 Bug with Saxomat
1976 VW/Harley Trike Autostick
1987 Vanagon Westy w/Subaru EJ25 and reversed 4EAT |
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mellowslow Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2009 Posts: 278 Location: Vacationland
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:08 am Post subject: |
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pdm777 wrote: |
I know the FAS exhaust exists, I am put off by the $$$$$$.
($699 for uncoated, unpainted and not stainless steel exhaust,
not including cat or muffler.... )
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I have the FAS 4 bolt flange manifold exhaust. Thousands of miles on it and no cracks.
I think that the 6 bolt flange requires more complicated fabrication to get the pipe length and tuning correct. _________________ '87 WBWE FAS Gen V |
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metropoj Samba Member
Joined: April 23, 2004 Posts: 1343
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:11 am Post subject: |
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The bellows are at the top of the header and different from the flex pipes further down near the cat.
I managed to find the response from FAS:
Rewelding my stock manifold for extra strength:
Extra welding has helped pipes in the past, but only after it's cracked...in terms of life expectancy, we've seen across the board- a few months, to years after being repaired.
Bellows:
We've heard mixed results with the header bellows...not sure about fitment either.
So I don't think it is a slam dunk solution but may work. Seems like many variables.
I went ahead and purchased the exhaust hanger kit separately from the reworked 6 bolt manifold. I am hoping a better exhaust mounting option will help get me some miles out of the stock TiiCo header before it breaks. |
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rcook52459 Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2011 Posts: 492 Location: PORTLAND ORE
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:07 am Post subject: |
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my exhaust header was welded up in early 2009 has held so far. _________________ 85 westy tiico conversion.auto trans triumph TR250 1980 Suzuki GS1000l |
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pdm777 Samba Member
Joined: August 06, 2012 Posts: 348 Location: Clovis, CA
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:51 am Post subject: |
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metropoj, see -pics attached- not sure whether this
is a true Tiico or uses parts from Tiico with diff engine.
As fas as I can tell, it's a Audi 2.0 w 8v head,
was pro installed, not a home brew, and it's been great
so far except for the AC/Alt bracket needed replacement
due to broken bolts and enlargement of the mount holes.
Now the AC Alt are tight with new hardware from FAS,
and smoother without the AC and Alt bracket vibrating.
Will upgrade to serpentine belt soon.
Running older Tiico ECU (258A) see attached pic - want to upgrade
to new 258E code ECU, will it work w my present injectors
or do I need to go with the newer FAS fuel rail + injectors?
Will a ECU from the orig Audi 80 be suitable? If no, why?
Has a Calif. BAR sticker, so it's smog legal in CA
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metropoj Samba Member
Joined: April 23, 2004 Posts: 1343
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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Cool, looks like you have an 'actual' Tiico It is the correct term for what you are running at least injection wise and all the hardware I see.
The A code to E code you need to do what I did: A2 injectors, A2 Fuel Rail, A2 fuel pressure Regulator, 4 wire O2 sensor , All the parts I used are listed there.
The A3 serpentine system is a popular upgrade to get rid of the shakes. You have probably also upgraded your "Duo Sensor" from the 051 early type to the 031 part number. That made a difference when cold.
The Audi 80 ECU will be totally different an 99% sure incompatible. This injection had its roots from the South African Polo as a cheap custom injection so you either use it or don't.
All those that went the E code route rave about how well it performs. The fuel mapping is right ,etc. The A code made the engines run HOT because the mappings were all screwed up from what I've read. I am convinced a lot of early premature header failure was because of excess heat.
E Code isn't cheap but I felt it was a good investment to keep the motor running cooler and correctly injection wise. |
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rcook52459 Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2011 Posts: 492 Location: PORTLAND ORE
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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find a fuel rail preferable from 88 to 92 jetta,golf.don't have to get FAS one.but they are getting harder to find.looking for one myself.when you find one at wrecking yard be sure to cut the O2 4 wire connector off and get the O2 sensor.a little cheaper than new. _________________ 85 westy tiico conversion.auto trans triumph TR250 1980 Suzuki GS1000l |
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Far_West Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2011 Posts: 10 Location: Idaho Falls
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 4:50 pm Post subject: tiico oil pan |
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Does anyone know what oil pan will fit on a tiico engine? |
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metropoj Samba Member
Joined: April 23, 2004 Posts: 1343
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Vanagon diesel. Like the 1.6 from 82 model year. |
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Paulbeard Samba Member
Joined: July 10, 2015 Posts: 2604 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Good grief, that engine bay shot looks like mine, right down to the body color.
The A2 fuel parts are on the big auction site pretty regularly, from what I hear on the tiico yahoogroup. _________________ Currently -> Frida: 87 Tizian Red (mostly) Vanagon GL Westfalia w/ 2.0L ABA conversion
Formerly -> Steward of a 73 Super Beetle (Beater) and 67 Beetle 1300 (Little Max) both names by POs
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57 Zwitter? Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2003 Posts: 418 Location: Boston, Mass.
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:12 pm Post subject: Re: Tiico Engine parts availability? |
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Does anyone know what the rubber air intake connector that goes to the air filter is from? |
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82westyrabbit Samba Member
Joined: March 02, 2015 Posts: 969 Location: Ma
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:45 pm Post subject: Re: Tiico Engine parts availability? |
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The rubber boot from the intake manifold to the air filter is reused from you wxb engine. Mine came with my engine when I bought it. The 1.9 and the 2.1 intake boot have different part numbers but the Ticco manual does not specify.In the Yahoo Ticco engine group there are files with all the parts numbers and what fits. I downloaded all the files and printed a small book to make sure all that information is always available to me. John |
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vanonimous Samba Member
Joined: October 19, 2013 Posts: 362 Location: Burien, Center of the Universe
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 11:08 pm Post subject: Re: Tiico Engine parts availability? |
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Here are some Tiico compatible parts from RockAuto. Very inexpensive.
I also used head gasket for 1988 Audi 80 4 cylinder (Victor Reinz 612829000 $15.95) but had to slightly modify one locating hole. So far it's working as intended.
_________________ If happiness is being a mechanic, owning a Vanagon is nirvana.
Lighting upgrades: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=578291 |
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