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Vana Guy Samba Member
Joined: August 23, 2016 Posts: 212
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2021 7:56 am Post subject: Re: Gauges - Post Pics! |
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BlueTooth gauge set I am working on using Android smart phone.
Showing oil pressure and temp.
It has 6 more inputs available.
Record mode records day/time and data every 10 seconds into text file.
Min/Max recording and alarm settings for min/max. |
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michaelasnider Samba Member
Joined: September 27, 2013 Posts: 369 Location: East Kootenays, Canada
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:04 am Post subject: Re: Gauges - Post Pics! |
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Oil temp and pressure using an oil filter sandwich adaptor. |
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pnwkayaker Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2008 Posts: 920 Location: Sammamish, WA
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:37 am Post subject: Re: Gauges - Post Pics! |
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So, it looks like my tachometer gauge is mostly dead, I've replaced the cluster foil with an aftermaket circuit and thought everything else works great, the tachometer still intermittently dies on its own (a tap on the top of the cluster revives it temporarily).
Is there a drop-in replacement for the OEM tachometer gauge (with fuel and temperature)? I'm hoping something that perhaps uses very similar wiring?
Original tachometer it's a VDO but doing a fast search in the VDO website I couldn't find that tachometer (or anything similar). _________________ 87 Syncro Westy EJ25 ("Tardis")
Seattle Meetup at Marymoor (link)
A collection of Simple Useful Mods (SUM) (link) |
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AndyBees Samba Member
Joined: January 31, 2008 Posts: 2331 Location: Southeast Kentucky
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:55 am Post subject: Re: Gauges - Post Pics! |
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pnwkayaker wrote: |
So, it looks like my tachometer gauge is mostly dead, I've replaced the cluster foil with an aftermaket circuit and thought everything else works great, the tachometer still intermittently dies on its own (a tap on the top of the cluster revives it temporarily).
Is there a drop-in replacement for the OEM tachometer gauge (with fuel and temperature)? I'm hoping something that perhaps uses very similar wiring?
Original tachometer it's a VDO but doing a fast search in the VDO website I couldn't find that tachometer (or anything similar). |
A friend of mine had one of the Gowesty boards installed. He has the same issue. I think it is a problem with connection points losing contact.
Surely someone has deciphered the Cluster Foil and has the Circuit Schematic available for sharing! _________________ '84 Vanagon Tin-top, ALH TDI. 1989 Tin-top
1983 Air-cool, 225k miles, 180k miles mine. Seven trips to Alaska from 1986 thru 2003. |
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dbartisan Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2010 Posts: 14 Location: Aliso Viejo CA
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:59 am Post subject: Re: Gauges - Post Pics! |
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I have this image in my notes if that would help, although I'm sure there's one in the Bentley.
I originally found it here, http://www.kpcnsk.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/instrumentpanel.jpg
Looks like this guys created a replacement for the blue foil before the GoWesty solution was developed.
-Steve C.
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VicVan Samba Member
Joined: July 01, 2015 Posts: 1845 Location: Vancouver Island, BC
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 11:58 am Post subject: Re: Gauges - Post Pics! |
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I used this to rewire the cluster myself a few years ago.
Before:
During:
After:
More info here: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7785281#7785281
If you really have the time, do it. Otherwise, buy a kit from one if the usual Vanagon vendors. _________________ '90 Little Blue Truck, 2WD auto, FAS GenV 2.0 NA (AVH) |
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pnwkayaker Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2008 Posts: 920 Location: Sammamish, WA
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:25 pm Post subject: Re: Gauges - Post Pics! |
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As I mentioned earlier, the cluster has been completely rewired (using the kit from slowbbridgeinnovation] and it works great. However, the tachometer itself is not working correctly (intermittent drop-offs), so I'm looking for a suitable drop-in replacement (ideally, having the same/similar connections).
I'll dismantle the cluster again this weekend and double check all the connections (though I already did that when I rewired the cluster 2 weeks ago)
VicVan wrote: |
If you really have the time, do it. Otherwise, buy a kit from one if the usual Vanagon vendors. |
_________________ 87 Syncro Westy EJ25 ("Tardis")
Seattle Meetup at Marymoor (link)
A collection of Simple Useful Mods (SUM) (link) |
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calo1956 Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2011 Posts: 700 Location: long Island new york
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:37 pm Post subject: Re: Gauges - Post Pics! |
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This is my setup, plus air temp and clock in a pod on the celing _________________ Enjoy the ride....
72 bug
80 westfalia |
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Vana Guy Samba Member
Joined: August 23, 2016 Posts: 212
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:42 pm Post subject: Re: Gauges - Post Pics! |
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calo1956 wrote: |
This is my setup, plus air temp and clock in a pod on the celing |
Very nice! Have you done anything to the plastic on your dash board? It looks factory fresh! |
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SyncroHead Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2005 Posts: 1145 Location: Northern Nevada
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:06 pm Post subject: Re: Gauges - Post Pics! |
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I decided to go UP instead of OVER with the added gauges. Used a modified instrument cover with an aluminum and plastic fascia to mount the gauges.
For my seating position and height, the new gauges line up right above the steering wheel for good visibility.
Jim Davis _________________ "A Vanagon? It's not a car or a van. It's a hobby!"
Check out:
www.VANAVATION.com
www.SyncroSafari.org and
www.Vanagons.org
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I have *no* idea what the previous owner carried in his Westy... angry donkeys? |
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valvecovergasket Samba Member
Joined: October 10, 2018 Posts: 1491 Location: pnw
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:10 pm Post subject: Re: Gauges - Post Pics! |
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whoa! thats an intimidating amount of info!
what's everything up there do/show? _________________ MegaSquirt resource - SpitfireEFI.com
gone, but not forgotten: '83 tdi westy - swap thread |
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SyncroHead Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2005 Posts: 1145 Location: Northern Nevada
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:49 pm Post subject: Re: Gauges - Post Pics! |
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valvecovergasket wrote: |
whoa! thats an intimidating amount of info!
what's everything up there do/show? |
Left to right:
Instrument Binnacle:
Scangauge for GoWesty EFI system, engine oil temperature, engine oli pressure, voltage, added switch for fog/driving lights (above defroster switch),
NavCom station:
Cell cradle 1, Magellan GPS 1 & 2, Camera mount, Tire Pressure Monitoring System, Cell cradle 2.
I find it necessary to have GPS navigation without cell signal, thus the Magellans. Often have one set to the next waypoint and the other set to the 2nd waypoint or sometimes one zoomed in and one zoomed out for the same destination. _________________ "A Vanagon? It's not a car or a van. It's a hobby!"
Check out:
www.VANAVATION.com
www.SyncroSafari.org and
www.Vanagons.org
sphet wrote: |
I have *no* idea what the previous owner carried in his Westy... angry donkeys? |
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human compass Samba Member
Joined: June 04, 2013 Posts: 423 Location: Flagstaff,AZ
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:53 pm Post subject: Re: Gauges - Post Pics! |
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Here's my speedhuts with custom pattern. the console is for the 6 speed suby transmission. _________________ 84 Westy Syncro- 3.3L SVX stage 2 tune,subaru gears 6speed with tbd, front locker, porche brakes x4, aux tank, radflo susp |
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9.5isCanadian Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2017 Posts: 465 Location: In your blind spot.
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:13 pm Post subject: Re: Gauges - Post Pics! |
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human compass wrote: |
SNIP
Here's my speedhuts with custom pattern. the console is for the 6 speed suby transmission. |
Love the Speed Hut. Had one on my air cooled triumph Scrambler (motorcycle)
Is there a build thread for your 6 speed build?
Owen _________________ 9 1/2 - missing a few pieces.
1987 Getaway Hightop
1980 Sunroof Vanagon
2018 BMW R Nine T
2012 Golf tdi |
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human compass Samba Member
Joined: June 04, 2013 Posts: 423 Location: Flagstaff,AZ
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:17 am Post subject: Re: Gauges - Post Pics! |
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9.5isCanadian wrote: |
human compass wrote: |
SNIP
Here's my speedhuts with custom pattern. the console is for the 6 speed suby transmission. |
Love the Speed Hut. Had one on my air cooled triumph Scrambler (motorcycle)
Is there a build thread for your 6 speed build?
Owen |
Hey Owen,
check out the syncaru 16 thread for the inside view of my madness! _________________ 84 Westy Syncro- 3.3L SVX stage 2 tune,subaru gears 6speed with tbd, front locker, porche brakes x4, aux tank, radflo susp |
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1988M5 Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2016 Posts: 674 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:46 am Post subject: Re: Gauges - Post Pics! |
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So most examples I've seen used on this thread use 5-25% of their available displays outputs to represent what the WBX/Vehicle will actually experience under normal circumstances. Why modify or add more? Add cold war avionics? Add a row of antiquated gauges. No! get a electronic solution; a tablet mounted from the ash tray is simple/smart and super useful as GPS or general home point, or a smart phone mounted sideways behind the steering wheel covering the non-used indicators in the middle of the cluster and its camera viewing the CTG, alarming the driver if things are out-of-order. All desired monitoring is available with out wires or bulk gauges. No more 8-Tracks.
BK _________________ 1991 tin top GL
2002 Winnebago Vista. VW VR6 24V Eurovan front clip powered class C 21' RV.
Some BMWs.
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1988M5 Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2016 Posts: 674 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:01 am Post subject: Re: Gauges - Post Pics! |
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What I wrote was rude but true. If you want to reinvent the stock dashboard, have a speedometer reading between between 30 - 80MPH. Do not have a tach-o-meter, our ears can hear what's happening (a over 5K rpm warning after 3 mins is ok, up shift). Fuel level sure. Coolant temp, yes (with a blunt warning if things are not ok)
TBC
BK _________________ 1991 tin top GL
2002 Winnebago Vista. VW VR6 24V Eurovan front clip powered class C 21' RV.
Some BMWs. |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32625 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:13 am Post subject: Re: Gauges - Post Pics! |
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1988M5 wrote: |
What I wrote was rude but true. If you want to reinvent the stock dashboard, have a speedometer reading between between 30 - 80MPH. Do not have a tach-o-meter, our ears can hear what's happening (a over 5K rpm warning after 3 mins is ok, up shift). Fuel level sure. Coolant temp, yes (with a blunt warning if things are not ok)
TBC
BK |
This no tach thing probably works for you.
You have experience with the sound an engine makes at a given RPM. You probably learned this skill from driving a lot of cars...............
........... WITH Tachometers!
Add to this, your hearing us probably quite good.
Not all of us are so fortunate to be fully blessed with that sense.
As with most modifications made to these Vans do what pleases you. But don't go telling me that I am silly for wanting to take up dash space for or don't need a Tach.
I'm very experienced with the automobile, but always being able to hear 5,000 rpm? ....... it ain't happening.
Dave _________________ Stop Dead Photo Links how to post photos
Ghia
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=392473
Vanagon
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6315537#6315537
Beetle
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=482968&highlight=74+super+vert |
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DuncanS Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2013 Posts: 4583 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: Gauges - Post Pics! |
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Love the black on white. I was inspired by these guys. https://shop.classicinstruments.com/vt58slf Super dear and so this is where I am now.
Duncan |
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smithprocess Samba Member
Joined: April 09, 2021 Posts: 70 Location: Bay Area, California
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:05 pm Post subject: Re: Gauges - Post Pics! |
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My gauge project on my 89 Syncro Doka (build thread: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=763624)
- Autometer GPS speedo - antenna is routed through the A pillar
- Volt meter with LED indicator wired to the factory charge warning
- Electronic oil pressure gauge - tied into my EJ25 via a sandwich block above the oil filter and LED tied to the factory oil pressure warning
- Tachometer signal routed from the subaru ECU
- Water temp - factory signal, but with modified routing to avoid the coolant temp relay - that relay is still used to monitor coolant level though and routed to an adjacent LED
- Fuel level - routed through a metermatch to dial in the ohms from the factory sending unit and LED that flashes when I've got about 30 miles to empty
Center LEDs
- High beam (blue)
- Turn / Flasher (green)
- Check engine (orange)
- E Brake (red)
All LEDs are far too bright at night right now, so my next project is adding a photocell to the dash to serve as a daylight dimming resistor - I have it bench prototyped, just not installed yet
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Initially started with an ABS panel and quick splices below the 14-pin connector
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Final version laser cut out of carbon fiber, replaces the 14-pin connector with individual weatherpack connectors, and moves the flasher and headlight switches to toggles mounted on the dash
And finally adding a momo wheel that is much too small for a manual steering rack, but... free cross fit, so I'm not complaining.
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And a question for someone who knows more than me about the front diff - is there any issue with making a threaded cap for the speedo drive on the diff? My concern I guess is, does oil seep out of there to lubricate the stock speedo cable? Worried if the answer is yes and I block it off it could create unwanted pressure? Maybe a non-concern? Anyone know? |
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