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rcooled
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 Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| ...he wasn’t very familiar with Karmann Ghia’s. He’s a Porsche guy. |
Familiar with Ghias or not, I'd expect the the same attention to detail and craftsmanship from a reputable shop in any car they turned out.
I don't think the vintage Porsche community would accept that Ghia's overall level of quality in a 356 'restoration'.
A new comment's been added by a former owner of this car. He's got a real bromance going with the seller, claiming that he's a metalworking wizard, and that he's not even gonna bother with Ghias anymore 'cause he's too busy working on blue-chip vintage Ferraris, Cobras, Jags, RRs, etc. 
If any of that's true, how could someone top off all that prized metalwork with such half-assed detailing? Even though it's not a 4-cam 356 Carrera GT, you still put in the effort and do the job right.
Bottom line: It sold right and the new owner can re-do the details if they choose.
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kingkarmann
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| Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 2:29 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| rcooled wrote: |
| kingkarmann wrote: |
| ...he wasn’t very familiar with Karmann Ghia’s. He’s a Porsche guy. |
Bottom line: It sold right and the new owner can re-do the details if they choose. |
Agree 100%
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:30 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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I had to respond to that snob.
If that car was a 356 it would get torn to shreds. I guess the builder thought no one would notice how half assed it was, after all it’s just a Karmann Ghia and all those people are bottom feeders in the classic car world I guess?
And if you are going to try and impress with your VW owning creds don’t refer to a bus as a “van.”
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Marcdeb
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Location: Vermont
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| Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:59 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| rcooled wrote: |
| kingkarmann wrote: |
| ...he wasn’t very familiar with Karmann Ghia’s. He’s a Porsche guy. |
Familiar with Ghias or not, I'd expect the the same attention to detail and craftsmanship from a reputable shop in any car they turned out.
I don't think the vintage Porsche community would accept that Ghia's overall level of quality in a 356 'restoration'.
A new comment's been added by a former owner of this car. He's got a real bromance going with the seller, claiming that he's a metalworking wizard, and that he's not even gonna bother with Ghias anymore 'cause he's too busy working on blue-chip vintage Ferraris, Cobras, Jags, RRs, etc.
If any of that's true, how could someone top off all that prized metalwork with such half-assed detailing? Even though it's not a 4-cam 356 Carrera GT, you still put in the effort and do the job right.
Bottom line: It sold right and the new owner can re-do the details if they choose. |
Those comments were just more of the same BS that was shoveled out during the auction. This person had one goal, to make the seller sound like an expert.
But he has already demonstrated what he is, the car he sold told us more about him than anything he can brag about. He may very well do awesome metal work and paint, but he refused to answer people's questions. I could never do business with this guy.
This quote says a lot:
"if you made a criticism or didn’t bid because of a side reflector that was added by mistake....."
"By mistake" ?? Really! And what 356 restoration expert would leave off the engine seal?
I think the car is likely an excellent buy, but it might also be full of hidden rust, we don't know because the seller would not offer up any information.
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68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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kingkarmann
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| Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 1:43 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-volkswagen-karmann-ghia-13/
Just sold for $19k
Seller should be thrilled!
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 1:45 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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That used to be a $5k car all day long a couple years ago. Even the late models are riding the wave, which is great.
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Marcdeb
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kingkarmann
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PeteSC
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:15 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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Carpeted engine bay....can't say I've ever seen that before (probably for good reason). |
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Era Vulgaris
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:08 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.
I'm not even commenting on this one for fear of what might come out of my keyboard.
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98 Porsche Boxster, silver, 2.5L -- 67 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1500sp -- 98 BMW Z3, Atlanta Blue Metallic, 2.8L I6 -- 75 Porsche 914, Laguna Blue, 2270cc -- 72 Porsche 914, Signal Orange, 1.7 FI -- 74 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1600dp -- 74 Triumph TR6 with O.D., sapphire blue |
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Marcdeb
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| PeteSC wrote: |
Carpeted engine bay....can't say I've ever seen that before (probably for good reason). |
Considering that this is a 30 year old restoration, I would have to think that whatever metal work it would have needed, was done in an effective way. I don't get excited over a car like this, but I have to admit, it's interesting to look at. Ghias like this have done quite well on BAT in the past and I suspect this one will as well.
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68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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HBGhia
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:17 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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Carpeted engine bay....can't say I've ever seen that before (probably for good reason). |
Couldn't find extra carpet for the firewall? Nah, its good.
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kingkarmann
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| Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1965-volkswagen-karmann-ghia-6/
So……
Will a 1600 with dual Kadrons “peg 90 mph”. There is a claim by a commenter (not the seller) that it should go 100mph 
Me thinks not. What say you?
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sputnick60
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blue72beetle
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:53 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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Dropped from the top of Half Dome, maybe.
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1963 stretched double cab
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kingkarmann
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| Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:46 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| Braukuche wrote: |
| Dropped from the top of Half Dome, maybe. |
Ha!🤣
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:59 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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Damn, that 90s throwback Ghia is at $20k with thee hours left. That’s the kind of car that would have a hard time hitting $10k a couple years ago.
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Retirement is here!
1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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Marcdeb
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| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:32 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| Braukuche wrote: |
| Damn, that 90s throwback Ghia is at $20k with thee hours left. That’s the kind of car that would have a hard time hitting $10k a couple years ago. |
There seems to be a good market for mods. I'm not surprised. I think it will easily go over $30k.
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68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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