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Kurt V
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Joined: September 20, 2020
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Location: Lincoln, NE
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 Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:31 pm Post subject: Missing sun visors! |
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| 1970 fastback. Previous owner installed a new headliner, but left off the sunvisors. I have tried to feel where the screw holes are under the headliner to install some sunvisors, but can’t find them. Really don’t want to pull away on the headliner to try and find the screw holes. Thinking it might just be easier to tint the upper part of the windshield to block the sun. Thoughts? |
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DHanna
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Joined: June 15, 2004
Posts: 240
Location: North Richmond, N.S.W Aust.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:10 pm Post subject: Re: Missing sun visors! |
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| Kurt V wrote: |
| 1970 fastback. Previous owner installed a new headliner, but left off the sunvisors. I have tried to feel where the screw holes are under the headliner to install some sunvisors, but can’t find them. Really don’t want to pull away on the headliner to try and find the screw holes. Thinking it might just be easier to tint the upper part of the windshield to block the sun. Thoughts? |
Use a pin or needle to locate holes for screws. |
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Qldelsie
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Joined: September 22, 2019
Posts: 518
Location: Queensland Australia
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| Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:22 pm Post subject: Re: Missing sun visors! |
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I also have a 1970 Fastback. When I had my new roof liner put in recently, the upholsterer didn't mark the sun visor or the visor clip holes. He did the seat belt holes and pop out window clip holes, but for some reason forgot the sun visor ones !
And he threw away the very ratty old roof liner !!
Armed only with the photo attached, I took a paper clip and un rolled it, and using the photo as a guide, poked the wire through the tiny air holes in the roof liner, until I the wire went through one of the holes in the metal. I then worked out whether it was a screw hole of the bigger central hole by wiggling the wire to define the size of the hole. Once I had one hole, the rest was easy. I then did exactly the same for the central clips. Very easy really.
Tinting the window would never block out enough sun - Not in Australia anyway !!
Ah - DHanna has already replied and agrees !!
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Qldelsie
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Joined: September 22, 2019
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Location: Queensland Australia
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| Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:27 pm Post subject: Re: Missing sun visors! |
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BTW, if you do fit your visors, be aware that the central clips do NOT just push in. You have to insert them 90 degs rotated, then twist them until the screw hole lines up. This means the clip is held in place by both the screw as well as the plastic pin on the clip.
Look at the back of the clip before you try to insert it, and you will see what I mean.
Took me a while to work that out without having any instructions or previous experience !!
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Kurt V
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Joined: September 20, 2020
Posts: 25
Location: Lincoln, NE
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:26 am Post subject: Re: Missing sun visors! |
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| Thanks for the advice and the picture! |
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Erik G
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KTPhil 
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Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:58 am Post subject: Re: Missing sun visors! |
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| also when you get your new visors out of the box, pull the rod out. it will appear too short but it's not |
LOL! I had an embarrassing email conversation with ISPwest on just this subject!  |
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Bobnotch
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Joined: July 06, 2003
Posts: 22422
Location: Kimball, Mi
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:10 pm Post subject: Re: Missing sun visors! |
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| also when you get your new visors out of the box, pull the rod out. it will appear too short but it's not |
LOL! I had an embarrassing email conversation with ISPwest on just this subject! |
You weren't the only one. Supa Ninja went so far to start a thread on ISP/TMI visors.
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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
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squaretobehip
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Joined: August 23, 2004
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Location: San Jose, CA
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:03 pm Post subject: Re: Missing sun visors! |
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| Bobnotch wrote: |
| KTPhil wrote: |
| Erik G wrote: |
| also when you get your new visors out of the box, pull the rod out. it will appear too short but it's not |
LOL! I had an embarrassing email conversation with ISPwest on just this subject! |
You weren't the only one. Supa Ninja went so far to start a thread on ISP/TMI visors. |
That thread...LOL.
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Qldelsie
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Joined: September 22, 2019
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Location: Queensland Australia
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:03 pm Post subject: Re: Missing sun visors! |
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| Erik G wrote: |
| also when you get your new visors out of the box, pull the rod out. it will appear too short but it's not |
Er.....No. The rod (pin end if thats what you mean) no longer "pulls out" like the old ones used to. You have to slowly work the visor itself along the bar away from the hinge end. This will enable the pin to then seat in the clip properly.
I can't find the thread where I detailed this, but I am sure I am correct. But, as always, will stand corrected if I am wrong.
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Bobnotch
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Location: Kimball, Mi
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| Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:34 am Post subject: Re: Missing sun visors! |
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| squaretobehip wrote: |
| Bobnotch wrote: |
| KTPhil wrote: |
| Erik G wrote: |
| also when you get your new visors out of the box, pull the rod out. it will appear too short but it's not |
LOL! I had an embarrassing email conversation with ISPwest on just this subject! |
You weren't the only one. Supa Ninja went so far to start a thread on ISP/TMI visors. |
That thread...LOL. |
Yup, it was a real head turner for sure. 
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Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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| "Friends are God's way of apologizing for relatives." |
| Tram wrote: |
| People keep confusing "restored" and "restroyed". |
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EasternNotch
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Qldelsie
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Location: Queensland Australia
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| Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:51 pm Post subject: Re: Missing sun visors! |
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Still can't find the Samba post I put in, but here is the link to my rebuild blog where I was doing the sun visors.
Turns out it was TMI who advised that the visors are compressed for "shipping purposes", and they know they need to be extended to fit. So instructions are as I stated on the newer sun visors. Older originals you still pull the pin end out.
https://notslowingdownyet.blogspot.com/2020/07/0023-smaller-things-take-even-longer.html
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Kurt V
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Location: Lincoln, NE
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| Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:48 pm Post subject: Re: Missing sun visors! |
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| Your blog post helped clear things up for me. Thanks again! |
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justinekins
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Location: Reno, NV
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| Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 2:55 pm Post subject: Re: Missing sun visors! |
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| This just saved me as well! |
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Bobnotch
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Location: Kimball, Mi
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: Missing sun visors! |
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| Erik G wrote: |
| also when you get your new visors out of the box, pull the rod out. it will appear too short but it's not |
I also pulled the hinge/swivel end out about a 1/4 inch too.
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Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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| "Friends are God's way of apologizing for relatives." |
| Tram wrote: |
| People keep confusing "restored" and "restroyed". |
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