1st time with a puck

[BFB]

just got a 6 puck and 1700 lb clutch in my Baja today and took it for a hot lap. I've never had a puck disk before and it sure does feel different than a standard disk, really just wants to grab and go. it's not bad but will take some getting used to, worst part is trying to pull / back into the shop and trying to go slow where I might normally slip the clutch a little just to get a little momentum and with the 6 puck it wants to be all in or kinda chatters otherwise.

just a little back info, it's a boosted 2021 with rgb trans, still cable clutch so I didn't want to go with to strong of a p.p. and wear my leg out, hell my knees already hurt! heh heh
prior to this the clutch was slipping in 3rd ( of course) and even 4th when boost came in.

I don't have a question about anything, just thought I'd start a thread about it as it's new to me and so ppl could throw some puck opinions or experiences out there too.
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[modok]

It's true. Not recommended for grocery store parking lots.

A metalic "puck" clutch can let you get away with less pressure plate.
As it gets hot it will grab harder instead of losing grip like a normal clutch would.

[madmike]

I street drive with a 4 Puck grocery getter with a roll cage
trick is finding one with a 'sprung center'
had to replace this year cuz it started to chatter/wheel hop bad,, new disc and allswell

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[buguy]

I've never tried one. Certainly considered it before when i was getting some slip. I ended up with a stage 2 and a dual friction disk. Holding nearly 250whp so far. Stage 2 is stout to drive in traffic.

[BFB]

[buguy]

I don't know for sure but it seems like a stage 2 is 2100lb.

[Ohio Tom]

STage 2 can be hard on long trips. I like to drive bare-foot. That hurts after a while.

Puck disks are aggressive. They are chattery and some can even be audibly noisy (sounds like you are about to throw a rod).
They do offer extra bite and recover well when slipping under load.
They do tend to tear up the flywheel surface faster than an organic disk.

One Thing you said that made me take notice. You said it was slipping in 3 and 4th gear.
I hope that your 3rd and 4th gear dog-rings are welded to the gears?
This was the fist thing I noticed when I went turbo, was: What I thought was clutch slippage, was really the dog rings slipping on the gears.
The level of torque you now have in 3rd gear is much higher than any N/A motor can usually deliver. You might have found the weak link?

I guess you'll find out soon enough....

[BFB]

[clonebug]

When the 3rd and 4th gear syncro hubs slip it won't shift worth a toot anymore.
At least that was the symptoms on the transmissions I did it to.

I have a Stage II and CB Super Disc. I extended my thowout arm to 100mm and I can't say it's much harder than a stage I.
Not so much that it's too hard to push.....although I drive a Dump truck with a big clutch so I might not be so sensitive to harder clutches.

I usually pop it into neutral when I come to a stop sign or light that I have to sit for very long........
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[buguy]

Agreed. It doesn't bother me much to push it, but i do notice its a little harder to modulate with the gas pedal.

[Dan the workingstiff]

[madmike]

I just weight my old 4 puck at 1241 gr.
Stock disc w/sprung center ,, 811 gr.
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'Black Ice'Drag Buggy 'Turbo'
Rail Buggy 1915 turbo
76 Drag/Street bug 2180cc 'Turbo' 11:85 @113 mph"If I go any faster I'll burn up the Hamster" ,gets 28 mpg. also 10/09/22 11.90 @115 mph
"If I'm ever on Life Support,UNPLUG Me, Then Plug me back In see if that Works"

[clonebug]

[Ohio Tom]

[BFB]

so is it normal to run clutch adjustment a little looser with a puck than a normal disk?
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Forced induction can overcome a lot of obsticles that gets in it's way
"You are the Engineer and the Mechanic.  
Build it your way not the way someone else does it. Their way might not work for you." - clonebug
An interesting thing happens in forums where everyone starts parroting the same thing and "common knowledge" takes over.
“ The monkey see monkey do mentality seems to run deep in VW people. "Gene Berg said it was so 30 years ago so thats the way it is" “ - bdkw1

[BFB]

for ppl that may be looking for more info on pucks, so far I've probably put 100 miles on this new puck and it's seems to be getting more "streetable" .at first it would grab hard or chatter if you tried to eas it out to slow, now it seems to be a little less harsh. maybe the pucks glazed a little? I dunno..
it does seem like cable adjustment it merely just setting where you'd like the pedal to engage the clutch. like I don't need near the clutch throw that I did with a normal disk and that makes me wonder if a normal disk has a range of compression where a metallic disk wouldn't?
I don't know anything this is just my experience with it so far
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Forced induction can overcome a lot of obsticles that gets in it's way
"You are the Engineer and the Mechanic.  
Build it your way not the way someone else does it. Their way might not work for you." - clonebug
An interesting thing happens in forums where everyone starts parroting the same thing and "common knowledge" takes over.
“ The monkey see monkey do mentality seems to run deep in VW people. "Gene Berg said it was so 30 years ago so thats the way it is" “ - bdkw1

[modok]

[Dan the workingstiff]