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finster Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 7:55 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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I know it's not factory but figured it was the best place to put it for interest.
I like the bends in the horizontal bar to clear the wheels! _________________ "we're here on Earth to fart around" kurt vonnegut
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RockStock Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 6:45 pm Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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I think this one is Barndoor. Manual roof fit.
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CaLiBus Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 3:17 pm Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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The old fashion way |
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RockStock Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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RockStock wrote: |
just to add this one.
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Better picture of the one shown on page 5. _________________ -StockRocks- |
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djfordmanjack Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:59 pm Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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wondering if the '60' crayon marking on the tank is referring to tank cap size. _________________ Hotrods, Fords, Veedubs and Triumph Twins !
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EverettB Administrator
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:42 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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djfordmanjack wrote: |
wondering if the '60' crayon marking on the tank is referring to tank cap size. |
I was wondering what that marking was for too.
I feel like a factory worker would know the size by sight?
I noticed the tank is on reserve too, maybe limited gas in it to fine tune things? _________________ How to Post Photos
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finster Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:45 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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_________________ "we're here on Earth to fart around" kurt vonnegut
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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RockStock wrote: |
RockStock wrote: |
just to add this one.
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Better picture of the one shown on page 5. |
Did anyone else notice the pile of seats in the background? |
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Fish Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2000 Posts: 5538 Location: OB. It's beside the point.
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Lind Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:36 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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Fish wrote: |
Yup, they look like middle seats. |
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finster Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:21 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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these two photos are almost a panorama
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RockStock Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:46 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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1950
Goes with this run of pictures
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Well, end of line...
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Who.Me? Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:30 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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Who.Me? wrote: |
Is that an early 'touch the truck' contest?
None of them seems to be doing anything useful |
Is this the reverse angle of the picture above?
The location looks to be the same and the guy with the receding hair to the right of this second pucture seems to be the guy at the rear left in the first picture..
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djfordmanjack Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 4:57 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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truck in the second pic has also knobby tires in the rear and smooth sidewall tires in front. Like in upper pic.
But where has this pic been taken ?
Clearly not in Wolfsburg, and most probably not in SA, Australia or so, it is LHD.
Seems they are putting it on a service rack.
What's going on here, truck seems to be brand new.
Now we see it hanging on a hoist, all those guys holding it level and keeping it from bouncing around make sense.
edit interesting to note: has no windshield glass and wipers.
Could this be a South American part knocked down delivery, receiving Safaris ?
Or maybe even Portugal ?
more edit. in the second pic it doesn't seem to even have door glass/frames nor door handle installed. also missing gas door.
Thanx for posting this additional pic, i have always been wondering like crazy about whats going on here. It is a fascinating truck and pic ( series) _________________ Hotrods, Fords, Veedubs and Triumph Twins !
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djfordmanjack Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 5:28 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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late to the party, but this is an illustration from the 1955 VW 'VW-Betriebe richtig geplant,richtig gebaut' binder.
VW officially providing dimensions and drawings and ideas to building and fitting out service garages and dealerships.
This is a mechanical/electric scissor/screw lift, that will grab a bus at its substructure from underneath. the ramps are part of the lift.
The basic use of this lift is to put buses to be serviced on proper roller cradles ( one pictured under bus already). this saves space in the shop and you only need one lift while working on several buses/sedans.
I have just recently been able to purchase this rare binder from my collector friend Patrick in the Netherlands and I have yet to read through and find all the stunning details.
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It looks to me like there is a subframe mounted to the chassis of the Bus (or the Bus is resting on it). Presumably, that subframe consists of two parallel rails with two long pins running laterally through them. The ends of those pins would attach to the two lifting arms in the nearside of the photo.
If you look closely, there is a potential illusion in viewing the two arms, but they appear to be oriented inline with the length of the rails of the entire assembly, and they're action is in parallel with the ramps and up-and-down in the fore/aft direction, and so when it lifts, it resembles two railroad crossing arms lifting in the same direction, thereby translating the Bus in a bit of forward travel upon lifting, and then rearward again upon lowering. While hard to judge at the angle pictured, it looks like there is enough of an offset so that when the Bus moves rearward slightly upon lowering back down, the front beam would rest in the cradles, as would the rear torsion tube on its cradles. Does that make any sense?
There also appears to be a leadscrew down the middle, which looks to be for actuating the two lifting arms.
Just my two cents based on what I see. Of course, I could have it ALL wrong. |
sebgi1 wrote: |
Capriacci wrote: |
24-A Model, fresh from the assembly line? |
I wonder how that lift works with only two arms on the same side. |
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TornadoRed06 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 12:02 pm Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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djfordmanjack wrote: |
truck in the second pic has also knobby tires in the rear and smooth sidewall tires in front. Like in upper pic.
But where has this pic been taken ?
Clearly not in Wolfsburg, and most probably not in SA, Australia or so, it is LHD.
(...)
edit interesting to note: has no windshield glass and wipers.
Could this be a South American part knocked down delivery, receiving Safaris ?
Or maybe even Portugal ?
more edit. in the second pic it doesn't seem to even have door glass/frames nor door handle installed. also missing gas door.
Thanx for posting this additional pic, i have always been wondering like crazy about whats going on here. It is a fascinating truck and pic ( series) |
No doubts, very interesting pictures that are likely to have been taken at the same location/stations.
I do not think these depict operations that had been held in Portugal.
Why?
1- the VW assembly wasn't setup so early and with such scope of tasks in hand (notice pile of timber slats);
2- both 2 vehicles show rear axles with knobby tires fitted, clearly earmarked for difficult roads; (OK, even by Top-tier EU country standards, Portuguese road surface quality is crap... now in 2022)
3- this is likely to be an early SKD/CKD VW operation (notice mirror arm pointing down in A post)
So, I guess this one is Brazil. VW entered the market early (first factory outside Germany), but initially the operations were mainly SKD/CKD.
The rear axles with knobby tires makes sense: many roads in the vast interior (outside Sao Paulo/Rio de Janeiro and other big cities) were mostly unpaved or life of these vehicles was greatly expected to be faced with them, earlier than later.
So, how about that? |
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Who.Me? Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 2:09 pm Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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TornadoRed06 wrote: |
djfordmanjack wrote: |
truck in the second pic has also knobby tires in the rear and smooth sidewall tires in front. Like in upper pic.
But where has this pic been taken ?
Clearly not in Wolfsburg, and most probably not in SA, Australia or so, it is LHD.
(...)
edit interesting to note: has no windshield glass and wipers.
Could this be a South American part knocked down delivery, receiving Safaris ?
Or maybe even Portugal ?
more edit. in the second pic it doesn't seem to even have door glass/frames nor door handle installed. also missing gas door.
Thanx for posting this additional pic, i have always been wondering like crazy about whats going on here. It is a fascinating truck and pic ( series) |
No doubts, very interesting pictures that are likely to have been taken at the same location/stations.
I do not think these depict operations that had been held in Portugal.
Why?
1- the VW assembly wasn't setup so early and with such scope of tasks in hand (notice pile of timber slats);
2- both 2 vehicles show rear axles with knobby tires fitted, clearly earmarked for difficult roads; (OK, even by Top-tier EU country standards, Portuguese road surface quality is crap... now in 2022)
3- this is likely to be an early SKD/CKD VW operation (notice mirror arm pointing down in A post)
So, I guess this one is Brazil. VW entered the market early (first factory outside Germany), but initially the operations were mainly SKD/CKD.
The rear axles with knobby tires makes sense: many roads in the vast interior (outside Sao Paulo/Rio de Janeiro and other big cities) were mostly unpaved or life of these vehicles was greatly expected to be faced with them, earlier than later.
So, how about that? |
Yep. I think this picture from the gallery proves it. The wall in the background is the same. It's probably the same single cab on the trestle too...
^^^ The gallery posting from 'tragaoguincho' says it's VW of Brazil Factory - São Bernardo do Campo - SP.
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obieoberstar Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 6:46 pm Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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Lots of details in these series of photos.
Perhaps the single cab is being taken off the fixture for final finishing. The lack of glass and wipers have been noted. The bus has more going on under the chassis than a beetle, so having it higher would be easier for assembly.
This is some good stuff. |
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obieoberstar Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 6:49 pm Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |
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I am curious about this lift and how it supported the vw. Could you provide a better picture from that manual? |
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