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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 3:40 pm    Post subject: Rear Seat Bench installation problem Reply with quote

I have 1976 Standard Beetle. I am having great difficulty pushing the rear bench seat cushion back far enough to engage the bottom divider cross rail when trying to push the seat down into place. I have come close to pinching fingers when trying to do it. Is there a trick to it?
I am also wondering about the metal tang on the bottom back edge on the drivers side of the seat that looks like it should engage a corresponding locating slot on the body. Perhaps misalignment with this slot is preventing pushing the seat back far enough to get into place? I can't get into a position to see if it is engaged.
I don't recall my '62 or '66 Beetles having this piece. What is it's purpose? Is it necessary?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear Seat Bench installation problem Reply with quote

I have a 1974 Super Beetle, and I removed that tang entirely, and the rear seat is still a bitch to get in. I suspect that something changed in the fit of the ‘70s models, as opposed to the ‘60s, because I never had any trouble fitting the back seat when I owned earlier Bugs.

I use a thin wooden wedge sort of tool, as well as a metal scraper, to wedge the seat into the metal front piece.

Tip: don’t try to put the seat in on a hot day. You’ll have a heart attack.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear Seat Bench installation problem Reply with quote

Angle the seat bottom so the front sits in the metal rail first. Then hit the back corners of the seat bottom and it will pop down into place.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear Seat Bench installation problem Reply with quote

Ian wrote:
Angle the seat bottom so the front sits in the metal rail first. Then hit the back corners of the seat bottom and it will pop down into place.

^^^^^^^this^^^^^^^
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:32 am    Post subject: Re: Rear Seat Bench installation problem Reply with quote

Ian wrote:
Angle the seat bottom so the front sits in the metal rail first. Then hit the back corners of the seat bottom and it will pop down into place.


I found this method last week by accident, works like a charm. Now I must confess that I've been fighting with rear seats in beetles for a mere 51 years
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 7:09 am    Post subject: Re: Rear Seat Bench installation problem Reply with quote

Has anyone ever thought about cutting their seat frame to fit better?

I use the slip and hit method, too, but better/faster is appreciated.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:14 am    Post subject: Re: Rear Seat Bench installation problem Reply with quote

Profcucchi wrote:
Has anyone ever thought about cutting their seat frame to fit better?

I use the slip and hit method, too, but better/faster is appreciated.


Confused Why?

Front edge first, then the back slips right in. As long as nothing is bent and it's all in place it's super easy.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear Seat Bench installation problem Reply with quote

I have a 76 also and I HATE dealing with the back seat.


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Angle the seat bottom so the front sits in the metal rail first. Then hit the back corners of the seat bottom and it will pop down into place.


I don't understand how this would work since there is a tab under the rear passenger seat side that slides into a slot mounted on the frame...


I put the rear of the seat in first. The front will be hanging off an inch or so. Stick your hands between the seat back and bench and pull up while using your knees to push the bench back. Yes, you will be standing hunched over in the back of the car dripping sweat fighting it. It may go in first time or it may take 10 minutes.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear Seat Bench installation problem Reply with quote

Seat back goes in and down, engage the tang with the raised slot, push the seat and squish the rear corners down while you shove the front to match with the front seat rail. You can unlatch the seat back to make more room for the seat bottom to rest in place.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:21 am    Post subject: Re: Rear Seat Bench installation problem Reply with quote

Thanks for all the feedback! Does anyone know the purpose of the tang and slot? It represents additional manufacturing cost on a mass produced car. VW must have added it for a reason. I would like to know before cutting it off…..
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:09 am    Post subject: Re: Rear Seat Bench installation problem Reply with quote

Ian wrote:
Angle the seat bottom so the front sits in the metal rail first. Then hit the back corners of the seat bottom and it will pop down into place.


I agree with this. Only way I can get the seat in.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:13 am    Post subject: Re: Rear Seat Bench installation problem Reply with quote

Profcucchi wrote:
Has anyone ever thought about cutting their seat frame to fit better?

I use the slip and hit method, too, but better/faster is appreciated.


I actually salvaged the stock frames from a car I scrapped to attach VW Scirocco foam and covers to in the hope of ending up with a lighter, more comfortable and easier to get in and out rear seat. I'll let you all know how it goes...eventually.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear Seat Bench installation problem Reply with quote

I see about zero purpose for that retaining hook. I am thinking about cutting the thing off completely, the seat will surely stay in place without that pain in the azz thing.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:25 am    Post subject: Re: Rear Seat Bench installation problem Reply with quote

I tried the suggested method of placing the bottom front edge of the seat into the support rail first and then pushing the back edge down into place. The seat popped right in with no difficulty!!! This method works. Thanks for the tip!

I have studied the tang on the rear bottom edge of the driver side of the seat and the slot it fits into on the body. The upward curve on the end of the tang and the shape of the slot allows the tang to engage the slot when the seat is pushed down into place. I believe it is a safety device that prevents the seat from rotating out of place during sudden deceleration or a crash. Now that I am familiar with the proper way to install the seat, I am leaving the tang and receiving bracket in place. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:54 am    Post subject: Re: Rear Seat Bench installation problem Reply with quote

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