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frankydee Samba Member
Joined: October 21, 2018 Posts: 87
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:43 am Post subject: Steel Wheels |
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I need a 6" wide five pattern wheel with a specific rear set back for a spare. Way back when, I used to know where to have them made. Where can I go today? I am west coast (AZ). Thanks |
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Vanapplebomb Samba Member
Joined: November 03, 2010 Posts: 5389 Location: Holland, MI
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:24 pm Post subject: Re: Steel Wheels |
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I changed the offset on mine by cutting the welds that hold the hoop to the center, moved it where I wanted it, and welded them back together. It’s pretty easy to do. I made a simple jig to make sure the run out was good before welding. Just spun the wheel with the center bolted down to the brakes (center is a slight press fit into hoop) next to a fixed point… in my case, just a bolt head. I tapped the hoop around while spinning it until it rubbed evenly on the bolt head all they way around. I did this for both axial and radial runout. Took all of 20 minutes to do both wheels. The result was better runout than what the wheel originally had. _________________ 1800 Type 4 Berrien 295
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Vanapplebomb Samba Member
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frankydee Samba Member
Joined: October 21, 2018 Posts: 87
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: Steel Wheels |
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HOW DID YOU CUT THE CENTERS OUT? |
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frankydee Samba Member
Joined: October 21, 2018 Posts: 87
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:16 pm Post subject: Re: Steel Wheels |
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anyone???? |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12815 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: Steel Wheels |
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Carefully cut/grind away the weld where the center is attached to the outer hoop.
I made my own jig to cut the hoop so I could insert a steel band (banding) & weld back up.
TDCTDI wrote: |
Or maybe.... I’ll just widen these.
Hey y’all, watch this.
The first thing I did was toss a wheel in my homemade banding jig & commence to tearing it up.
About ten minutes later, I separated the outer lip.
I then grabbed the appropriate width strip.
After that, I removed the lower mandrel from my English wheel.
And substituted my self made roller.
Then tossed in a strip & started forming it into a band.
Once it was the desired diameter, I proceeded to tack it to the outer lip.
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After thoroughly welding the band to the outer lip, I cleaned up the weld on the visible side of the hoop & did a trial fit & using a pry bar clamped to the jig, I checked the runout & got the wheel within 1/8”.
The rest of the discrepancy is due to the lip being slightly bent, I can adjust that later with a BFH & a crescent wrench so I began making them one again. Unfortunately, about 2/3 around, my faithful old Hobart shit the bed & noped out of the task at hand.
But here’s where we’re at.
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Brian Samba Moderator
Joined: May 28, 2012 Posts: 8340 Location: Oceanside
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Vanapplebomb Samba Member
Joined: November 03, 2010 Posts: 5389 Location: Holland, MI
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:37 pm Post subject: Re: Steel Wheels |
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frankydee wrote: |
HOW DID YOU CUT THE CENTERS OUT? |
There are four welds holding the center section in the rim. Grind the welds out, then pound out the center section. It takes a good bit of force because it is pressed into the rim. Hit around the perimeter, not the middle. You don’t want to bend it. A cold chisel works well to hit the flanges where they meet the rim.
Pretty straight forward to do. Only takes a few minutes per wheel.
When you fit the center section to a new rim, it probably won’t be so tight. I know mine were not. It was still tight enough that I had to hammer it in place. You need to find a rim that has the same inner diameter as the factory wheels to make life easy. Once you get it center up well and your runout set, then you weld up those four spots again where the center was attached to the rim. _________________ 1800 Type 4 Berrien 295
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12632 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:28 am Post subject: Re: Steel Wheels |
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I wanted 14" x 8" rims for the rear of my rail so I could use ATV tires. I found a couple of late 60's rally rims at the wreckers, took the centers out and welded in Bus wide 5 centers. The only problem was that they were not a matching pair (1 Ford and 1 Dodge) so the hump in the center of the rim band was different and I ended up with a 1/2" difference in offset between the two. Not a big deal on an open wheel low speed trail Buggy. _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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