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ZENVWDRIVER
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 Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: People placing WTB notes on your Bus |
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I usually say, "yes", but mean no and quote a ridiculously high price = usually "$95K" and then, the perspective buyer finalizes it, when he says, "no"-
If someone ever agrees - i'd sell and buy something better and put the change in the bank - y not? z
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skills@eurocarsplus
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: People placing WTB notes on your Bus |
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after i got done building my 70 deluxe i had an offer....
70k cash offer I turned down....I even took a photo because no one would believe me...
at least i knew the dude was real.
anyway....i still don't think i would part with it today. even if i don't use it a whole lot it's art to me. i can see it/touch it/feel it any time i want plus take it out and beat the shit out of it.
dunno...just a shitty old bus but i guess it's MY shitty old bus 
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EverettB
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:44 pm Post subject: Re: People placing WTB notes on your Bus |
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| I'm not talking about selling just for the sake of selling, at fair market value, and not being able to replace it. But if it allows me to upgrade into a better, more valuable VW I otherwise wouldn't have been able to afford, I'll take the deal in a heartbeat. |
I've felt both ways. Some cars just aren't for sale, some I would have done it... never got such a high offer that I had to decide though.
The same thought has come through my mind... Can I replace it in the same condition or better for that amount of money.
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CanStan
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:55 pm Post subject: Re: People placing WTB notes on your Bus |
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| Wow, seems dumb to walk around with $70K in cash and lay it out where possibly shady people could see it. |
I think it’s sweet to say Skills is a “possibly shady” person.
If for $70k you couldn’t get something better than you have, that’s the right call I’d say. But I’m sure there’s a number where had he slapped that much down, he would have been driving it home. I know for the hours and dollars you put into it, that would be a hard deal to make. |
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CanStan
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:13 pm Post subject: Re: People placing WTB notes on your Bus |
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| I'm not talking about selling just for the sake of selling, at fair market value, and not being able to replace it. But if it allows me to upgrade into a better, more valuable VW I otherwise wouldn't have been able to afford, I'll take the deal in a heartbeat. |
I've felt both ways. Some cars just aren't for sale, some I would have done it... never got such a high offer that I had to decide though.
The same thought has come through my mind... Can I replace it in the same condition or better for that amount of money. |
About 7 years ago, I built a nice Vanagon Westy to keep forever. 2 years later, someone offered me more than I think it was worth on the open market, so I built a really nice Bay to keep forever. Last year, when someone offered me more than that was worth, I got into a Split Bus, which was previously well out of my reach financially. Now I have a very solid, nice running Split that has essentially cost me zero dollars. I think maybe I was just fortunate to get into each vehicle right before they went crazy in value, and cash out when they got high. Had it not been for a bunch of stars aligning, I’d still have the Vanagon. And I’d be just fine with that.
I think I traded up from the Vanagon -> Bay -> Split. But I’m sure the Vanagon forums (and my kids) disagree. |
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iamdonquixote
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:46 pm Post subject: Re: People placing WTB notes on your Bus |
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based upon others posts, I'm glad to see that the whole yelling across the gas station or from another car "HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT FOR IT!!!? " thing is not regional.
^^ happens all the time to me
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Lind
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:12 pm Post subject: Re: People placing WTB notes on your Bus |
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| EverettB wrote: |
| CanStan wrote: |
| I'm not talking about selling just for the sake of selling, at fair market value, and not being able to replace it. But if it allows me to upgrade into a better, more valuable VW I otherwise wouldn't have been able to afford, I'll take the deal in a heartbeat. |
I've felt both ways. Some cars just aren't for sale, some I would have done it... never got such a high offer that I had to decide though.
The same thought has come through my mind... Can I replace it in the same condition or better for that amount of money. |
To me it is a catch-22. The ones that people would potentially offer ridiculously high money for are the ones that I would not sell. Of course nobody is making crazy offers, and I probably wouldn't believe them if they did.
When a bus that I seriously want comes along that is so special that I don't think I will have another opportunity to get, I make a move and sell one(s) that I can replace. Been doing that for decades.
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Blue Baron
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:30 pm Post subject: Re: People placing WTB notes on your Bus |
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My turn!
It hasn't happened with the bus, because a logoed panel is an acquired taste, and doesn't have the same curb appear as a two-tone beauty with lots of windows (though they do quiz me about the value a lot), but it happens all the time with the Beetles.
I have gotten many nice notes on the windshield, usually sounding very sincere; I've never followed up.
I've also had people walk up and literally try and buy me out of the driver seat. I had one guy walk up and say it was exactly what he wanted, and over and over explained that he was a player, his history with VWs and Porsches, etc. Sounded sincere enough to have me start calculating, but I lose interest easily and never followed up.
I've also found that many of them only want the car until they find out it's really for sale, and then suddenly they no longer want it because something must be wrong with it.
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mr white
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:41 pm Post subject: Re: People placing WTB notes on your Bus |
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| I just take them off and toss them. I don’t even read them. When I’m ready to sell I post them for sale. If someone really wants a bus, there are plenty here for sale. It’s no secret. |
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Blue Baron
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:47 pm Post subject: Re: People placing WTB notes on your Bus |
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| Blue Baron wrote: |
| It hasn't happened with the bus.... |
I take that back. A guy did walk up at a cruise night and say it was perfect for his business. He looked it over, knew what he was looking at, and seemed like a legit player, but I'm not ready to put our retired service vehicle* back into service yet.
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earlywesty
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 5:35 am Post subject: Re: People placing WTB notes on your Bus |
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| Lind wrote: |
| EverettB wrote: |
| CanStan wrote: |
| I'm not talking about selling just for the sake of selling, at fair market value, and not being able to replace it. But if it allows me to upgrade into a better, more valuable VW I otherwise wouldn't have been able to afford, I'll take the deal in a heartbeat. |
I've felt both ways. Some cars just aren't for sale, some I would have done it... never got such a high offer that I had to decide though.
The same thought has come through my mind... Can I replace it in the same condition or better for that amount of money. |
To me it is a catch-22. The ones that people would potentially offer ridiculously high money for are the ones that I would not sell. Of course nobody is making crazy offers, and I probably wouldn't believe them if they did.
When a bus that I seriously want comes along that is so special that I don't think I will have another opportunity to get, I make a move and sell one(s) that I can replace. Been doing that for decades. |
Same for me. I would not have the buses I have now without trading up for past 25 years. I just don't have that kind of cash.
I have had offers to buy over the years, some more serious than others. I bought a cool bus this summer and it was parked in the driveway for a change, I usually have everything inside out of sight. A guy with a new Mercedes pulls in the driveway and is all over it. Has the look he wants, offers a strong price right of the gate, has an oval blah blah blah. He tells me he knows its worth quite a bit and he really wants it. I tell him I know its worth a lot, I just paid a lot for it.  I had to tell him its not for sale several times before he left. Thats why I keep them inside. |
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Lind
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 6:08 am Post subject: Re: People placing WTB notes on your Bus |
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On a similar, yet very different note, I own a piece of property in my town, Boise, Idaho, which happens to be one of the hottest real estate markets in the country currently. I bought my property years ago, and plan on building a house on it someday. I get letters in the mail more than once a month trying to buy it. I get calls and texts trying to buy it. It has never been for sale since I bought it, which was before the current boom. All the callers and texters ask if they can make an offer. I usually respond "sure, you can make and offer, what is your offer?" Not one has ever made an offer, they all try to get me to put a price on it. I have had at least 10 calls over the last couple years. I figure they are not even speculators themselves, they are just call center people working for speculators who are trying to get people to give a number so they can then try to sell it to someone else for more before they even buy it. I am confident that they would not pay market value, and if I wanted to sell it, I would have a professional handle the sale. I am a car guy, not a real estate guy. Of course I do a similar thing with cars that they are doing with property, although I am not afraid to actually make an offer. I don't leave notes, I just talk to the owner and make an offer if they are ready to sell.
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skills@eurocarsplus
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:53 am Post subject: Re: People placing WTB notes on your Bus |
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| EverettB wrote: |
| Wow, seems dumb to walk around with $70K in cash and lay it out where possibly shady people could see it. |
that was ash tray money for this guy. local casino CEO.
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I think it’s sweet to say Skills is a “possibly shady” person.
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shady? naaa. asshole? yup
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If for $70k you couldn’t get something better than you have, that’s the right call I’d say. But I’m sure there’s a number where had he slapped that much down, he would have been driving it home. I know for the hours and dollars you put into it, that would be a hard deal to make. |
i literally built that thing from 4 tires, 2 pieces of glass and a seat. even if i paid myself shop rate i'm nowhere near that in time and materials.
grew up poor in the hood until at about 7 or so we moved to an apartment complex that was less hood, but just barely. 70k wasn't life altering money then, and still isn't now.
besides if and when i ever sell something it needs to go FAR away. i don't want to ever see it again. this guy is about 10 mins from me.
a lot of people thought i was nuts....i mean lets be real... 70k for a bay? like i said it's art to me. if i ever sell it and it pulls 30k so be it. if i never sell it and the family pops it for 700 at the estate sale good for them. just a cool story about what someone thought my work was worth.
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
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| Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
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| Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:14 am Post subject: Re: People placing WTB notes on your Bus |
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| Not but on property. We get multiple calls a day sometimes on 3 houses we own. I tell them the same thing every time. Your first offer needs to be 300k then we go from there until I say okay. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:54 am Post subject: Re: People placing WTB notes on your Bus |
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| skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
| EverettB wrote: |
| Wow, seems dumb to walk around with $70K in cash and lay it out where possibly shady people could see it. |
that was ash tray money for this guy. local casino CEO.
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I think it’s sweet to say Skills is a “possibly shady” person.
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shady? naaa. asshole? yup
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If for $70k you couldn’t get something better than you have, that’s the right call I’d say. But I’m sure there’s a number where had he slapped that much down, he would have been driving it home. I know for the hours and dollars you put into it, that would be a hard deal to make. |
i literally built that thing from 4 tires, 2 pieces of glass and a seat. even if i paid myself shop rate i'm nowhere near that in time and materials.
grew up poor in the hood until at about 7 or so we moved to an apartment complex that was less hood, but just barely. 70k wasn't life altering money then, and still isn't now.
besides if and when i ever sell something it needs to go FAR away. i don't want to ever see it again. this guy is about 10 mins from me.
a lot of people thought i was nuts....i mean lets be real... 70k for a bay? like i said it's art to me. if i ever sell it and it pulls 30k so be it. if i never sell it and the family pops it for 700 at the estate sale good for them. just a cool story about what someone thought my work was worth. |
It is art when you build it from nothing, it just happens to portable art. Some people get it, some don’t.
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Lind
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: People placing WTB notes on your Bus |
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| Braukuche wrote: |
| skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
| EverettB wrote: |
| Wow, seems dumb to walk around with $70K in cash and lay it out where possibly shady people could see it. |
that was ash tray money for this guy. local casino CEO.
| CanStan wrote: |
| I think it’s sweet to say Skills is a “possibly shady” person. |
shady? naaa. asshole? yup
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| If for $70k you couldn’t get something better than you have, that’s the right call I’d say. But I’m sure there’s a number where had he slapped that much down, he would have been driving it home. I know for the hours and dollars you put into it, that would be a hard deal to make. |
i literally built that thing from 4 tires, 2 pieces of glass and a seat. even if i paid myself shop rate i'm nowhere near that in time and materials.
grew up poor in the hood until at about 7 or so we moved to an apartment complex that was less hood, but just barely. 70k wasn't life altering money then, and still isn't now.
besides if and when i ever sell something it needs to go FAR away. i don't want to ever see it again. this guy is about 10 mins from me.
a lot of people thought i was nuts....i mean lets be real... 70k for a bay? like i said it's art to me. if i ever sell it and it pulls 30k so be it. if i never sell it and the family pops it for 700 at the estate sale good for them. just a cool story about what someone thought my work was worth. |
It is art when you build it from nothing, it just happens to portable art. Some people get it, some don’t. |
VW built the art from nothing. We are just making our interpretations of their masterpieces.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:49 pm Post subject: Re: People placing WTB notes on your Bus |
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When I worked patrol, I’d always keep a look out. I’d leave a business cards on nearly every VW I found. I’d even knock on doors. The residents would instantly know I’m not a criminal or salesman etc. No harm. What’s the worst that could happen? No call back or a “no” in person. Cool. Most people either knew what they had, liked what they had or were unreal, aka delusional, in what they thought they had. The real VW guys were always eager to talk...again, they knew I wasn’t a criminal, so...
I found a nice oval, low light Ghia, various T2s...including a nice dove blue single cab with bullet front signals...a couple T3s...
the guy that owned the Ghia called me, but he wanted way too much for the condition of the car; guy’s grandma, who owned the house, wanted it gone from her driveway. I did score a decent single wheel trailer (frame/suspension) for free.
As long as people are respectful, I have no issue with it.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:38 am Post subject: Re: People placing WTB notes on your Bus |
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I get calls and texts and junkmail all the time from people wanting to buy my house. I ignore the calls and throw the mail straight in the recycling bin, but the texts are fun. I usually reply back "$750K firm, I know what I've got." My house isn't worth anywhere near that much. They usually fuck off after that.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:34 pm Post subject: Re: People placing WTB notes on your Bus |
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A few days ago I'm driving my single cab and I was looking straight ahead Fahrvergnugening my ass off. A guy and his daughter drives alongside and I keep looking straight ahead. We get to a red light, at this point I'm ignoring him. finally he yells and I open the window. "You want to get rid of that thing!" I get that expression on my face and shout back "I've owned this for over 30 years, No" It is one of those sentimental VW's.
At In-N-Out burger, on my way back from my first Shasta trip a guy stops me in the parking lot and says, "What is that", I tell him its a VW Single Cab, He asks, "Is it for sale?"
At this point I follow the John Lennon rule, just keep walking, never stop walking. However, if you start talking about your VW we will have a great 10-15 minute conversation
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